6D as a Compliment to 5DMkiii

[Skirball]

Finally, I never use the center point either. Why would I?

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot. I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

 

[J.R.]

There has been a sort of love hate reaction toward the 6D. I feel that the 6D is the perfect complimentary camera to the 5Dmkiii. Many pro photographers need a second camera, and I believe the 6D is perfect if you use the 5Dm3 as your primary camera. Almost every feature is complimentary. The 5D lacks the fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone, the low light focusing ability. The 6D lacks superior focusing, video ability and a few others. All while maintaining similar IQ. I have not heard this discussed. If you own both, you have almost all you bases covered with duplication of the most important qualities. If only the 6D could be had for 1500$ or less - maybe in a few months, the ebay offers will appear.

I said before and I'm going to say it again: - Most 6D owners were from Rebel(budget issue). Therefore, the high lighted features above are so dam important more than AF system. Who take picture @ -3EV?

I don't see $6800(1D X) body has "fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone"

I'm sure 5D III & 1D X owners will have no problem adding those accessories if they feel is needed.

I guess that is a fair assessment. The only reason I got the 6d is because I couldn't justify shelling out $$$ for another 5d3. The Wifi and the GPS are nice features but not enough in themselves to justify getting a 6d. I only bought the 6d because the IQ was at par with the 5d3, probably a tad cleaner.

IMHO, the wifi and GPS are sweeteners provided by Canon to help you to justify getting a 6d. Canon's current pricing is such that a "free" wifi and GPS feels like Christmas has arrived early - I don't know how much the 6d owners have used these features but for me it feels inconsequential.

BTW, the EOS app is plain dumb. If I wanted a remote shooting device, I'd probably get a Camranger.

 

[bdunbar79]

Finally, I never use the center point either. Why would I?

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot. I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

This is just the stupid comment I was expecting from you. The faces are in focus right? They're faces aren't in the center. They are two AF points up the vertical set of AF points on my camera.

In other words, you're wrong. See ya.

 

[florianbieler.de]

Finally, I never use the center point either. Why would I?

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot. I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

This is just the stupid comment I was expecting from you. The faces are in focus right? They're faces aren't in the center. They are two AF points up the vertical set of AF points on my camera.

In other words, you're wrong. See ya.

No offense but this seems to be the right time to ask what the heck you shoot there anyway. Two 1DX, a 5D3 and all I see is completely random sports boredom. Are you a professional booked solely for this purpose? I'd sure use that gear for other stuff in my spare time.

 

[Wilmark]

There has been a sort of love hate reaction toward the 6D. I feel that the 6D is the perfect complimentary camera to the 5Dmkiii. Many pro photographers need a second camera, and I believe the 6D is perfect if you use the 5Dm3 as your primary camera. Almost every feature is complimentary. The 5D lacks the fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone, the low light focusing ability. The 6D lacks superior focusing, video ability and a few others. All while maintaining similar IQ. I have not heard this discussed. If you own both, you have almost all you bases covered with duplication of the most important qualities. If only the 6D could be had for 1500$ or less - maybe in a few months, the ebay offers will appear.

I said before and I'm going to say it again: - Most 6D owners were from Rebel(budget issue). Therefore, the high lighted features above are so dam important more than AF system. Who take picture @ -3EV?

I don't see $6800(1D X) body has "fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone"

I'm sure 5D III & 1D X owners will have no problem adding those accessories if they feel is needed.

YES !! we got your point, dont know why you have to shout it out - this is not a group decision, everyone here has a free choice. But obviously everyone does not have your shooting habits and quirks. I dont care to. I think if the 6D was more inexpensive it would make a great companion. You are making my point that you have to pay MORE to have the functionality that is already in the 6D (the gps and connectivity). By owning both the 5D and the 6D you have access to this extra functionality. I never take the same picture with both cameras at the same time. So I have more of an expanded feature set by using the 6D as a backup. The down side is where you are using both cameras for the same shoot and maybe want the advanced auto-focus on both, which is not a huge deal for me. And yes I have encountered many many instances where the 5D3 wont focus because there isn't enough light. Having GPS is great for documentary and landscape photography. And I will repeat this again - you are free have your choice on this and so do others - there is no one right answer or consensus.

 

[Robert Welch]

I picked up a 6D originally as a camera for my wife, since it was a compact size and weight I thought she could handle it easily (she currently uses a 7D, the 6D is actually smaller). I also wanted to test it and see how I liked it as a 'second' camera to my 5D3. I must say, I like it a lot. I find I go to it often instead of the 5D3, it's very nimble and easy to handle. I just use the center focus sensor, and recompose when needed. I find that center sensor to be extremely reliable, and more sensitive in low light than the 5D3. The camera is a pleasure to use, not a replacement for the 5D3 obviously, but a nice and very usable camera. My biggest gripe with the camera would be it doesn't have dual card slots, I would prefer that.

 

[J.R.]

There has been a sort of love hate reaction toward the 6D. I feel that the 6D is the perfect complimentary camera to the 5Dmkiii. Many pro photographers need a second camera, and I believe the 6D is perfect if you use the 5Dm3 as your primary camera. Almost every feature is complimentary. The 5D lacks the fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone, the low light focusing ability. The 6D lacks superior focusing, video ability and a few others. All while maintaining similar IQ. I have not heard this discussed. If you own both, you have almost all you bases covered with duplication of the most important qualities. If only the 6D could be had for 1500$ or less - maybe in a few months, the ebay offers will appear.

I said before and I'm going to say it again: - Most 6D owners were from Rebel(budget issue). Therefore, the high lighted features above are so dam important more than AF system. Who take picture @ -3EV?

I don't see $6800(1D X) body has "fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone"

I'm sure 5D III & 1D X owners will have no problem adding those accessories if they feel is needed.

YES !! we got your point, dont know why you have to shout it out - this is not a group decision, everyone here has a free choice. But obviously everyone does not have your shooting habits and quirks. I dont care to. I think if the 6D was more inexpensive it would make a great companion. You are making my point that you have to pay MORE to have the functionality that is already in the 6D (the gps and connectivity). By owning both the 5D and the 6D you have access to this extra functionality. I never take the same picture with both cameras at the same time. So I have more of an expanded feature set by using the 6D as a backup. The down side is where you are using both cameras for the same shoot and maybe want the advanced auto-focus on both, which is not a huge deal for me. And yes I have encountered many many instances where the 5D3 wont focus because there isn't enough light. Having GPS is great for documentary and landscape photography. And I will repeat this again - you are free have your choice on this and so do others - there is no one right answer or consensus.

1) 6D as a second camera is great;
2) no-one who can afford a second 5d3 is going to buy the 6d as a backup /second body;
3) it is better if you have the same system on both your cameras;
4) the gimmicks of wifi and GPS are neither a deal maker, neither a deal breaker. They are just sweeteners allowing you to justify your purchase.

BTW, I love my 6D but I'm afraid I'll sell it once I get my head around to buying the 1DX (after upgrading my lenses, of course).

Period!

 

[Nancy Goodenough]

Re: 6D as a Complement to 5DMkiii

I got the 5D3 with the first ship and love it, esp for BIF. We were going to Colombia, South America for 3 weeks and I didn't want to carry the mkiii there for security reasons, so got the 6D to take there, as well as a backup to the mkiii.

The 6D was fabulous. Lighter and a little less obvious than the mkiii (I used gaffer's tape over the logos). Got some images in a dark market that I didn't expect. I didn't use the GPS because it drains the battery even when the camera is turned off. After the fact, I probably should have set it up and turned it on and off to capture where I was at the time. I even got a BIF with it, though not as effective as with the 5D3.

I had wanted the EOS-M as a backup and travel camera, but as we know it's horrible. The 6D worked great and I'm glad I got it for backup and this trip.

www.flickr.com/photos/nancygoodenough

I don't have much from Colombia up on flickr yet. Just back.

 

[Wilmark]

2) no-one who can afford a second 5d3 is going to buy the 6d as a backup /second body;

I wont labor the point except to note that this is YOUR criteria. Photogs like to pretend that their preferences are somehow 'better' than those of others. We see this here in this post. If you want to see how unreasonable photographers want to make their 'opinions' into science check the post on "Crazy... go Nikon?". Your point #2 is what I would be weary of .. "who can afford" Professional/Serious photography is about needs and business justification - buying all that you can afford (and that usually involves overspending) this is gearhead and fanboy talk! PERIOD!

 

[RLPhoto]

Finally, I never use the center point either. Why would I?

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot. I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

This is just the stupid comment I was expecting from you. The faces are in focus right? They're faces aren't in the center. They are two AF points up the vertical set of AF points on my camera.

In other words, you're wrong. See ya.

No offense but this seems to be the right time to ask what the heck you shoot there anyway. Two 1DX, a 5D3 and all I see is completely random sports boredom. Are you a professional booked solely for this purpose? I'd sure use that gear for other stuff in my spare time.

Ouch, I even found that harsh. At least he goes out and shoots, some of these trolls coming into CR don't even leave they're test chart rooms.

 

[mustafa]

Compliment/complement. Similar word, but very different meanings.

Also isle/aisle, FWIW.

 

[florianbieler.de]

Well, in my opinion it is harsh to come at other members only because he owns and uses not one but two 1DX and a 5D3, but then on the other side he's got nothing to show but coverage of unknown sports events. With that gear it is not so special to do that and that provides no good base for a discussion about this camera detail crap whether to use the center point or one above, it probably makes absolutely no difference anyway.

 

[bdunbar79]

Well, in my opinion it is harsh to come at other members only because he owns and uses not one but two 1DX and a 5D3, but then on the other side he's got nothing to show but coverage of unknown sports events. With that gear it is not so special to do that and that provides no good base for a discussion about this camera detail crap whether to use the center point or one above, it probably makes absolutely no difference anyway.

I'm not coming at anybody. Do I think the 6D is a great camera? Yes I do. I think the 6D is a great camera. I merely mentioned that the BEST compliment to a 5D3 is another 5D3. Would the 6D make a great compliment? Sure, why not, but IMO it's not the BEST compliment. And I explained why, and I think I have valid points. Not everyone agrees with me, but And for the record if you read back, when I first stated this, I was questioned and told I was wrong. But anyways, enough of that.

People on here will only personally attack you, and provide no photos of their own (not you by the way). This is normal.

And, the thread isn't about center point AF. It's about 6D as a compliment to the 5D3. I stated my opinion that it wasn't the BEST compliment as the discussion was heading in that direction. For a professional photographer yourself, I'd expect much better from you than personally attacking someone. It is not my fault that I do sports photography mostly and also the only photos I choose to share. I shoot a lot of other things, but I don't put them on my flickr account. Sorry if I have nothing to "show for it" and I won't personally attack anyone.

 

[bdunbar79]

Finally, I never use the center point either. Why would I?

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot. I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

This is just the stupid comment I was expecting from you. The faces are in focus right? They're faces aren't in the center. They are two AF points up the vertical set of AF points on my camera.

In other words, you're wrong. See ya.

No offense but this seems to be the right time to ask what the heck you shoot there anyway. Two 1DX, a 5D3 and all I see is completely random sports boredom. Are you a professional booked solely for this purpose? I'd sure use that gear for other stuff in my spare time.

Yes, and I make a lot of money doing it. Thanks.

Well, a lot is subjective. Many of my photos are used by the AP and lowly area newspapers. I also do all of the 8 x 10's for the athletic hallways. I know sports isn't always the most interesting or artistic type of photography, especially in crappy gyms where it is so difficult to get artsy. I also shoot for the GLIAC and NCAC, but I'm getting long-winded.

I know my photos don't go big places, and sorry they are boring to you. But it's what I'm told to do.

 

[bdunbar79]

Finally, I never use the center point either. Why would I?

Just for amusement I thumbed through the first three pages of your Flickr stream to see what you shoot. I found it amusing that all but maybe 2 photos had the subject smack dab in the center.

This is just the stupid comment I was expecting from you. The faces are in focus right? They're faces aren't in the center. They are two AF points up the vertical set of AF points on my camera.

In other words, you're wrong. See ya.

No offense but this seems to be the right time to ask what the heck you shoot there anyway. Two 1DX, a 5D3 and all I see is completely random sports boredom. Are you a professional booked solely for this purpose? I'd sure use that gear for other stuff in my spare time.

Ouch, I even found that harsh. At least he goes out and shoots, some of these trolls coming into CR don't even leave they're test chart rooms.

Thanks. There are real people who go out in the trenches and shoot in tough situations.

 

[J.R.]

2) no-one who can afford a second 5d3 is going to buy the 6d as a backup /second body;

I wont labor the point except to note that this is YOUR criteria. Photogs like to pretend that their preferences are somehow 'better' than those of others. We see this here in this post. If you want to see how unreasonable photographers want to make their 'opinions' into science check the post on "Crazy... go Nikon?". Your point #2 is what I would be weary of .. "who can afford" Professional/Serious photography is about needs and business justification - buying all that you can afford (and that usually involves overspending) this is gearhead and fanboy talk! PERIOD!

If your budget is limited, get a 6D. If you can get another 5d3, get a another 5d3. That's all I'm saying.

For me affording is something I can buy that it within my reach without having to extend myself unnecessarily. Your definition may be different.

By your own logic though, what you wrote is YOUR criteria ... What's the whole point of getting oh so emotional over it?

 

[J.R.]

Well, in my opinion it is harsh to come at other members only because he owns and uses not one but two 1DX and a 5D3, but then on the other side he's got nothing to show but coverage of unknown sports events. With that gear it is not so special to do that and that provides no good base for a discussion about this camera detail crap whether to use the center point or one above, it probably makes absolutely no difference anyway.

It's equally, if not more harsh to flame someone for what he gets to shoot professionally (and get paid for it).

BTW, do you shoot sports?

 

[bdunbar79]

Well, in my opinion it is harsh to come at other members only because he owns and uses not one but two 1DX and a 5D3, but then on the other side he's got nothing to show but coverage of unknown sports events. With that gear it is not so special to do that and that provides no good base for a discussion about this camera detail crap whether to use the center point or one above, it probably makes absolutely no difference anyway.

It's equally, if not more harsh to flame someone for what he gets to shoot professionally (and get paid for it).

BTW, do you shoot sports?

Thank you.

However J.R., there's no sense in trying to deal with these people.

It is puzzling how my comments were taken as an attack on someone somehow or other. Secondly, then me, and my work, was attacked. All for really no reason. For stating an opinion (which was taken out of context). Apparently I am reduced to random sports boredom. To be clear though, obviously the photos are for public viewing. This can be changed, however, if they are too boring. Also, random sports boredom is a completely ignorant thing to say. Why? Tell that to the mother who had insufficient funds to come and watch her daughter swim and qualify to the NCAA meet. The mother lived in California while the meet was in Canton, OH. Because I was there photographing we were able to get her hundreds of photos.

So yes, boring may be, but there's more to photography than being technically interesting to someone I don't even know. These photos are for parents and players, and NOT to entertain YOU. If you'd like it if I took my link down I will and to avoid future personal attacks I can also take down my signature file.

J.R., again, I should stop typing because dealing with these people is futile. Thanks again though.

Back on topic, and as I stated earlier, I think the 6D is a great camera. It probably does perform better than the 5D2 at both ends of the ISO scale. Many friends have turned from Rebels to their first FF camera using the 6D. My point was that I don't like using two different camera systems as main and backup.

 

[J.R.]

random sports boredom is a completely ignorant thing to say.

+1. There is always a method to the madness and someone who has never shot sports will never know that. Too many people feel that getting a 1DX will automatically make you a pro-sports photographer. I wish life were that easy!

There is so much that can go wrong in a sports shoot because you don't get a second chance as you would with a landscape or a pretty model in a studio. The time to take the shot is infinitesimal and though the 1DX is exceptional, it takes considerable skill to get tack sharp shots.

If I were a pro-sports photographer or aspiring to be one, what would I stack my Flickr account with ... images of the Grand Canyon? Sheesh ...

Back on topic, if you are shooting landscapes or portraits, you'll be pretty safe with the 6D, even as a primary body - whether it will get you off the 5D3/1DX AF itch ... maybe, maybe not!

 

[Dylan777]

There has been a sort of love hate reaction toward the 6D. I feel that the 6D is the perfect complimentary camera to the 5Dmkiii. Many pro photographers need a second camera, and I believe the 6D is perfect if you use the 5Dm3 as your primary camera. Almost every feature is complimentary. The 5D lacks the fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone, the low light focusing ability. The 6D lacks superior focusing, video ability and a few others. All while maintaining similar IQ. I have not heard this discussed. If you own both, you have almost all you bases covered with duplication of the most important qualities. If only the 6D could be had for 1500$ or less - maybe in a few months, the ebay offers will appear.

I said before and I'm going to say it again: - Most 6D owners were from Rebel(budget issue). Therefore, the high lighted features above are so dam important more than AF system. Who take picture @ -3EV?

I don't see $6800(1D X) body has "fancy connectivity/gps capabilities not to mention the remote EOS software for your phone"

I'm sure 5D III & 1D X owners will have no problem adding those accessories if they feel is needed.

YES !! we got your point, dont know why you have to shout it out - this is not a group decision, everyone here has a free choice. But obviously everyone does not have your shooting habits and quirks. I dont care to. I think if the 6D was more inexpensive it would make a great companion. You are making my point that you have to pay MORE to have the functionality that is already in the 6D (the gps and connectivity). By owning both the 5D and the 6D you have access to this extra functionality. I never take the same picture with both cameras at the same time. So I have more of an expanded feature set by using the 6D as a backup. The down side is where you are using both cameras for the same shoot and maybe want the advanced auto-focus on both, which is not a huge deal for me. And yes I have encountered many many instances where the 5D3 wont focus because there isn't enough light. Having GPS is great for documentary and landscape photography. And I will repeat this again - you are free have your choice on this and so do others - there is no one right answer or consensus.

About getting a Powershot as 5D III backup since AF system is NOT important. AND Yes, it does come with GPS and others crappppppp