6D MKII

[fragilesi]

What you are describing is sensible business practice. This will exist in Nikon too. The fact that Canon has not been "forced by Sonikon" demonstrates that similar processes are in operation in all three companies. This should not be any kind of surprise to anyone.

Still, there might be different business practices in the respective companies. Sony is know to stuff every gadget they can come up with into their products ignoring compatibility (external or internal), while Nikon seems to be out to have the best "on paper" specs and value. This might be simply due to market share and Canon being the dominant force, but maybe there are different enterprise cultures that result in Canon being rather conservative.

Indeed there might. But the fact that Canon are not being forced as you put it earlier suggests that the difference in feature sets when everything is taken into account is not that great. I do think Canon is more conservative because they want to remain a choice for as many professionals / prosumers as possible. This means quality and continuity are definitely things they put higher up the priority stack than say Sony. And Quality plus the vastly bigger array of lenses cost, they cost a lot. It costs in resources, money and time to market.

At the end of the day it's all about choices and even in this day and age if your camera is an important thing for you Quality is likely to be hugely important.

 

[Marsu42]

But the fact that Canon are not being forced as you put it earlier suggests that the difference in feature sets when everything is taken into account is not that great.

Personally, I find that the main reason that *any* recent dslr is an incredible tool and sufficient for most things you can come up with - alas, except tracking. But one or more features don't matter that much except on paper.

I do think Canon is more conservative because they want to remain a choice for as many professionals / prosumers as possible.

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Agreed - which in turn can make it a bit awkward for anyone below that level. It's not I wouldn't recommend Canon to entry-level shooters, esp. because of Magic Lantern, but purchasing at 6d price and below imho warrants a good comparison with Nikon/Sony.

 

[fragilesi]

Agreed - which in turn can make it a bit awkward for anyone below that level. It's not I wouldn't recommend Canon to entry-level shooters, esp. because of Magic Lantern, but purchasing at 6d price and below imho warrants a good comparison with Nikon/Sony.

Agreed, I do wonder which way I would jump if I was just starting now. That quality would be high on the agenda though, I don't have mega bucks to spend on multiple bodies and the like and I don't have anywhere near enough time for this hobby. Therefore I need my camera to work perfectly every time. I am lucky enough to be able to say that so far that has happened .

(Now I've done it, wait for the imminent sob story )

 

[greger]

I am interested in what the 6Dll will be! Being able to focus quickly with all focus points as opposed to centre spot focus only and recompose would be a nice upgrade.

 

[JohnBran]

Well here is my wish list for the 6D MKII its not long:

The last possibility for pressure to upgrade 6d1->6d2 would be Nikon or Sony, but Canon has demonstrated that they don't really care about the competition's specs as long as they've got a similarly priced offer at all: Many people are tied to Canon by their gear or years of usability experience with this system.

Many of us have sold all our canon glass ( i have two left) and waiting to see what will 6dII bring. Canon is soo far behind Nikon that staying with Canon and the prices they charge for their products is just silly.
Mind you , this is the case in Europe . In US Canon has better prices.

 

[JohanCruyff]

It would be a much more attractive option if it had the joystick for focus point selection. I honestly like a lot of what the current 6D offers.

Personally, I'd say a joystick for 11 af points (10 non-crosspoint, one only crosspoint at f4+) is overkill - these few points are selected quickly with the multicontroller. Coming from the 60d, I feel very at home with the right-hand only layout of the 6d.

+1 Coming from 450D, ergonomics in 6D are also very great for my hands. Multicontroller is easy and fast to use. Haven't use joystick though...

I must be a really weird person, but I never liked my (classic) 5D's joystick.
When I wanted to switch from the central point to a top-right AF point, for example, it happened to select the top or the right AF point by mistake.
I prefer my current 70D multi-controller (6D like, AFAIK).

 

[JohnBran]

Agreed - which in turn can make it a bit awkward for anyone below that level. It's not I wouldn't recommend Canon to entry-level shooters, esp. because of Magic Lantern, but purchasing at 6d price and below imho warrants a good comparison with Nikon/Sony.

The best summary of us who have been long time with Canon and are now looking to move up to FF. Feature/Price is big consideration and Canon is just not competitive in Europe on that level. They are much better in US but hey that's not where i will be purchasing.
But i'll still wait for a while to see if there are any announcements regarding 6DMkII. I'm familiar with Canon systems so ultimately would like to stay with Canon. 6DMkII will be my decision point.