70d out in time?

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Thanks guys for the suggestions, please keep them coming! They are extremely helpful!

One of the problems I have with going APS-C is that I do see myself going full frame in the future, and I don't want to spend any more money on Crop lenses, if I won't be able to use them in the future (unless in crop mode). And the reason I don't just get a 60D with a 24-105, is with the crop factor, I don't know if 24mm-->really 38mm is wide enough.
 
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Snook said:
Thanks guys for the suggestions, please keep them coming! They are extremely helpful!

One of the problems I have with going APS-C is that I do see myself going full frame in the future, and I don't want to spend any more money on Crop lenses, if I won't be able to use them in the future (unless in crop mode). And the reason I don't just get a 60D with a 24-105, is with the crop factor, I don't know if 24mm-->really 38mm is wide enough.

Given your future is NOT aps-c, then a used 5d2 with a 24-105 sounds like a pretty good way to start. Good luck.
 
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dilbert said:
Get a camera with GPS.

No, don't - instead buy an external gps logger that is cheaper, more precise (updates more often, better sat feed in your breast pocket than a camera in your bag) and lasts longer with on own battery (like 24h with a charge). Back at the pc use GeoSetter or Lightroom to attach the coordinates from the log file to the pictures.

In-camera gps makes only sense if you want to put the jpeg shots online right after shooting.
 
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Can you post some of your photos with it?
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nope, dont have one, but figured given its tiny design it would travel well plus have the hardward to produce better then a P&S... i have shot with the 40mm pancake and while its limited for range, the pics are sharp and its superlight weight... actually suprised Canon doesn't offer a kit like that...

blessings,
paul
 
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As far as purchasing a 6d kit w/24-105, I am a little lost. I like the idea of buying it through Best Buy (for extended return policy, reward zone points, I am premier silver) but if I buy it online(not best buy), there is no tax? Am I correct with this statement? And if I do buy it online, what website? B&H, Adorama, etc...are there benifits from certain retailers?
 
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So I like adorama if you don't want to try and go cheap off ebay but I don't know if you can get the lens too cheaply. But you can check the price page just fine.
Back to what I was saying like like adorama, No sale tax unless you live in NY i think. They also do bungles for the same price, if looks like cheap stuff but it is free so that is nice. Right now you can like Buy together and save and get the 70-300 Usm IS lens for $200 which is a steal. Even if you don't want it or need it you can buy and and sell it easy for $300 and pocket $100.
I plan on getting a 6D too but am waiting for a good canon refurbished sale, so it might be awhile.
 
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Snook said:
I am new to DSLR's and will be traveling to Europe for a little over a month (leaving June 10th). I am pretty set on the XXD line, but would be interested in other suggestions. I was rather hopeful of the April 23rd announcement date, but now that has come and gone and no 70D. So do you guys 1) think the 70d bill be released before I leave? Or 2) think I should go for the 60D, or another suggestion.

Where do you go to? City-travelling? Nature-travelling? shooting Landscape ?
 
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Snook said:
I am new to DSLR's and will be traveling to Europe for a little over a month (leaving June 10th). I am pretty set on the XXD line, but would be interested in other suggestions. I was rather hopeful of the April 23rd announcement date, but now that has come and gone and no 70D. So do you guys 1) think the 70d bill be released before I leave? Or 2) think I should go for the 60D, or another suggestion.

Where do you go to? City-travelling? Nature-travelling? shooting Landscape ?

I will be doing a lot of city-travelling and landscapes.
 
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Snook said:
xps said:
Snook said:
I am new to DSLR's and will be traveling to Europe for a little over a month (leaving June 10th). I am pretty set on the XXD line, but would be interested in other suggestions. I was rather hopeful of the April 23rd announcement date, but now that has come and gone and no 70D. So do you guys 1) think the 70d bill be released before I leave? Or 2) think I should go for the 60D, or another suggestion.

Where do you go to? City-travelling? Nature-travelling? shooting Landscape ?

How much do you want to spent for the equipment? Wahts the limit?

I will be doing a lot of city-travelling and landscapes.
 
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For all essential purposes, IQ is the same across the rebels, 60D, and 7D. The 60D and 7D give you much better user interface and the 7D gives much better focusing system.

It is very very very unlikely that the 70D will be out before you go.... I'd recommend getting a 60D, they are very inexpensive now and it is a very capable camera. Whatever camera you choose, the glass will have a greater impact on your photos than which sensor it is. Crop cameras and kit lenses equals soft pictures. Crop camera and good lenses equals sharp pictures.

My walkabout setup is a 60D, a 70-200F4 IS, and a 17-55F2.8. Those two lenses cover most things.... but I also bring a 10-22 when I expect a need for ultra wide angle, or a 400F5.6 when after birds. The 17-55 has to be used to appreciate it... it really should be an L lens. Any of the 70-200's are SHARP!, but I went with the F4 version for lighter weight, and with outdoors use I don't really need the F2.8 version.
 
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For travel my 7D almost never comes out of my bag. My 5D MkII gets all of that work. I would go with a used or refurbished 5D MkII or a 6D I got about 80% of my great used off of GL I just took my 17 inch laptop with me. Took a couple of sample shoots and checked them.
 
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Don Haines said:
For all essential purposes, IQ is the same across the rebels, 60D, and 7D. The 60D and 7D give you much better user interface and the 7D gives much better focusing system.

It is very very very unlikely that the 70D will be out before you go.... I'd recommend getting a 60D, they are very inexpensive now and it is a very capable camera. Whatever camera you choose, the glass will have a greater impact on your photos than which sensor it is. Crop cameras and kit lenses equals soft pictures. Crop camera and good lenses equals sharp pictures.

My walkabout setup is a 60D, a 70-200F4 IS, and a 17-55F2.8. Those two lenses cover most things.... but I also bring a 10-22 when I expect a need for ultra wide angle, or a 400F5.6 when after birds. The 17-55 has to be used to appreciate it... it really should be an L lens. Any of the 70-200's are SHARP!, but I went with the F4 version for lighter weight, and with outdoors use I don't really need the F2.8 version.
I agree about the 60D. Still a great camera and the shoulder display makes operation easier compared to a rebel.
 
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Well are you going to spend the $650 and then want the 6D and waste time and a bit of money. It is hard. I shoot with a t2i and say I am not going to buy anymore lens until I get a 6D but my 70-200 is coming tomorrow.
 
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Snook said:
Ughhh..... I am starting to have second thoughts....$2400 for a 6d Kit, versus a 60d for ~$650ish and $1750 for lenses and accessories. I thought it would be easier than this. :-\

It isn't easy - that's why I'm still using my 60d, though I have decided to get the 6d sooner or later for those high-iso low-light af shots where the 60d simply cannot deliver. Also Magic Lantern on the 6d isn't ready yet :-p

But recently I have bought other gear (lighting, flash bracket, filters) that made my pictures so much better and I have learned that the limiting factor is me, not the camera sensor - and that's why I'm so underwhelmed by the 6d that has no *significant* (to me, ymmv) other gains over the 60d. And for €1800 I could buy one stellar zoom or two very good primes... I can encourage everybody to put thought into this, plus the camera body looses value quickly while lenses don't.
 
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Marsu42 said:
...I have learned that the limiting factor is me, not the camera sensor...

So true. So easy to get caught up in the "Bigger is Better," "Newer is Better," "More Expensive is Better" mindset. Especially when you take part in a forum where there is always someone who has a bigger, newer, more expensive toy.

We throw numbers around here like they mean nothing and tend to forget that for most people, spending $1,000 on a camera is one huge investment, not to mention $2,000 to $3,500.
 
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unfocused said:
Marsu42 said:
...I have learned that the limiting factor is me, not the camera sensor...

So true. So easy to get caught up in the "Bigger is Better," "Newer is Better," "More Expensive is Better" mindset. Especially when you take part in a forum where there is always someone who has a bigger, newer, more expensive toy.

We throw numbers around here like they mean nothing and tend to forget that for most people, spending $1,000 on a camera is one huge investment, not to mention $2,000 to $3,500.


So true. Thanks for that reminder.
 
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