7D replacement will not be called 7D Mark II because it will be APS-H
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APS-H would be interesting, yet it would surely cost more, and seriously not be a 7D... If they will make the 7D mk II a pro style body, I will surely get one anyway, though I may need to mine for gold or sell a car or something...
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What an idiotic rumor. Look, some people like the reach of an APS-C, so Canon is going to appease them. If they want the bigger sensor, they'll go with the 1DX.
Canon's decisions with their new models are quite logical, and if you think from their point of view - in terms of sales, and what people want and expect - then it's clear this rumor is foolish. The original poster is now added to my lost of doofuses.
Canon's decisions with their new models are quite logical, and if you think from their point of view - in terms of sales, and what people want and expect - then it's clear this rumor is foolish. The original poster is now added to my lost of doofuses.
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Austin said:
I think that is over starting out quite a bit. The 7d mkii has to be better than the 70d, worse than the 1dx/ 5d mkiii/6d in image quality, but better fps than the mkiii/6d. To reach that sweet spot, aps-h is a nice fit, so I don't entirely discredit the presumption.
It is unlikely... but not impossible.
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Don Haines said:
I agree. Personally, I've never liked the 4:3 aspect ratio for photos...always preferred the wider 3:2 aspect ratio.
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johnhenry said:
Not really. Different sensor sizes give you different balances between image quality and effective reach. All else being equal, an APS-C sensor will never be as good as an APS-H sensor which will never be as good as an FF sensor when it comes to image quality.
IQ is ultimately affected by TOTAL sensor AREA (not pixel area, sensor area). Reach is ultimately affected by pixel size. The interesting thing about this is that, there is nothing to prevent a FF sensor from having similarly small pixel sizes as any smaller sensor. It could happen (technically speaking, it has happened, with Canon's prototype 120mp APS-H sensor, which would TROUNCE any APS-C sensor on the market before or since it's press release). In practice, smaller pixels are generally the domain of smaller sensors, so in practice, most of the time, smaller sensors are generally offered the benefit of reach over larger sensors, however unlike IQ (which is affected by total sensor area), smaller sensors will NEVER compete with larger sensors for IQ.
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RLPhoto
Gear doesn't matter, Just a Matter of Convenience.
If they did make it APS-H, It would have a APS-C crop mode if the mirror would clear EF-s lenses. Then it makes complete sense as you'll get alittle more coverage with EF lenses but not costing FF and crop mode when you need it. Win-Win.
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I don't think it will be APS-H. But I do love APS-H and would really like to see another APS-H Camera.
I have a 1D Mark IV and realy enjoy the odd blend of bigger sensor, but not too big.
Canon shot themselves in the foot with the whole EF-S Lenses not fitting F or APS-H thing. Especially when 3rd party lenses do. My Tokina 11-16 is awesome on my 1D Mark IV vegetating unacceptablely only at 11mm. On my 5D III it's not bad until 15mm
I have a 1D Mark IV and realy enjoy the odd blend of bigger sensor, but not too big.
Canon shot themselves in the foot with the whole EF-S Lenses not fitting F or APS-H thing. Especially when 3rd party lenses do. My Tokina 11-16 is awesome on my 1D Mark IV vegetating unacceptablely only at 11mm. On my 5D III it's not bad until 15mm
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The APS H sensor would not be dead if it would not be for the APS H mirror.
With 3 models (and none of them a real beginner camera) Canon cover full Frame from Amateur to Pro
On the APS C side they range from Generation IPhone to Pro but with an aging flagship. That is the ocean they have to put a fish in, not a niche for the pro. APS H was put forward to cover the high FPS niche where physical limitation of the time would have made FF akward (large mirror Swinging reducing potential max FPS). Why now in the age of mirrorless introduce again a compromise between sensor size and mirror movement? Especially if you have to explain to the upgrading APS C guys that they loose half of the APS C Advantage in reach for the Price of havingto use FF lenses in the future?
With EF, EFS and EFM it would take a lot of marketing to sell something which does not really fit the last two and is not really using the first one full.
With 3 models (and none of them a real beginner camera) Canon cover full Frame from Amateur to Pro
On the APS C side they range from Generation IPhone to Pro but with an aging flagship. That is the ocean they have to put a fish in, not a niche for the pro. APS H was put forward to cover the high FPS niche where physical limitation of the time would have made FF akward (large mirror Swinging reducing potential max FPS). Why now in the age of mirrorless introduce again a compromise between sensor size and mirror movement? Especially if you have to explain to the upgrading APS C guys that they loose half of the APS C Advantage in reach for the Price of havingto use FF lenses in the future?
With EF, EFS and EFM it would take a lot of marketing to sell something which does not really fit the last two and is not really using the first one full.
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RLPhoto said:
I wonder if they can still do EF-s with APS-H. None of Canon's previous APS-H bodies were compatible with EF-s. To continue using EF lenses, the registration distance would have to be the same, and since no APS-H body to date was short-back compatible, I am willing to bet the mirror is too large. Maybe Canon could create some kind of folding mirror assembly to gain the necessary clearance...but that sounds like needless complexity, when there are a few good EF-s lenses for what they are, but none that compare to the IQ of a proper L-series lens.
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