7D - Worth Buying ???

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Don Haines said:
sun216 said:
DanielW said:
Neuro always points that you don't need APS-C for the extra "reach" if you won't print big, because you can crop images from, say, your 5D3.

Will not print large but
I am bit skeptical on this part " you can crop images from, say, your 5D3."

I didn't believe Neuro either.... so I did a comparison a year ago with a 5DII and found that it was a tossup depending on lens quality and lighting... and I found differences in "reach" to be marginal and in good light you had to pixel peep to tell the difference. In poor light, there was no comparison.... the 5D2 was immediatly visually superior on uncropped images.

Since then, the 5DIII has come out and by all reports works better than the 5DII.

One point though: Cropped (zoomed in) view on your viewfinder is sometimes more useful for accurate focusing. The 7D VF isn't as big as the 5DIII, but still (100% of 1.0x APS-C vs 100% of .71x FF).
 
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As a former 35mm slide shooter eons ago, I knew I'd eventually move to full frame from my 'starter' 30D. I upgraded to a 60D for more megapixels as I sometimes do rather tight cropping...ie, changed my mind from when I took the shot. Low light with the 60D at church functions (usually without flash) was a challenge, even with my 16-35 f2.8L ii and the 24-105. I tried a 24-70 L a year ago, but just too darned heavy for these old hands and no IS, so it was sold. While I found wide-open with the 135 L gave me enough light for reasonably fast exposures, but with the 24-105 I use mostly, it was either slow exposures or moving to the "uncomfortable ISO" speeds over 1600. I opted for slow exposures and dumped a lot of pix with subject movement as a result. As far as 24-105 distortion, Lightroom corrects it with a single click.

So, "feeding the need" for better ISO, I went to the 5D3 just before Christmas. What a difference! ISO 5000 and up is no problem! For me, the 5D3 is the ultimate solution to low light! Handheld shutter speeds 1/125 and faster are a joy. And even at f8 or smaller for DOF, the results are still outstanding! But when I want the ultimate low light, thin DOF, the 135 L wide open wins hands down!

So, based on my 60D experience with the same sensor as the 7D (and perhaps better firmware?), if the OP has the money, go for the 5D3. The 6D ain't no slouch, either!
 
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captainkanji said:
I upgraded from the 7D to the 6D. The 7D is still great, but I needed high ISO performance for events, and the 6D does not disappoint. In low light, it basically becomes a 1 point AF DSLR, but that one point grabs focus like a tractor beam ;D. For my style, FF is the way to go.


What about the AF ???
 
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sun216 said:
captainkanji said:
I upgraded from the 7D to the 6D. The 7D is still great, but I needed high ISO performance for events, and the 6D does not disappoint. In low light, it basically becomes a 1 point AF DSLR, but that one point grabs focus like a tractor beam ;D. For my style, FF is the way to go.


What about the AF ???

I have both a 7D and 6D. The 7D autofocus is of course better, but I find the 6D AF good enough for 95% of the things I shoot. That said, I don't do much wildlife or sports photography, mostly kids/family, landscapes and event photography. The 6D AF is fine for almost everything except for fast and erratically moving subjects.
 
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bholliman said:
sun216 said:
captainkanji said:
I upgraded from the 7D to the 6D. The 7D is still great, but I needed high ISO performance for events, and the 6D does not disappoint. In low light, it basically becomes a 1 point AF DSLR, but that one point grabs focus like a tractor beam ;D. For my style, FF is the way to go.


What about the AF ???

I have both a 7D and 6D. The 7D autofocus is of course better, but I find the 6D AF good enough for 95% of the things I shoot. That said, I don't do much wildlife or sports photography, mostly kids/family, landscapes and event photography. The 6D AF is fine for almost everything except for fast and erratically moving subjects.

I just bought a 6D, keeping my 7D which I've used for a couple years. I still love my 7D and will use it for rapid focus and extra reach. I also think at 800 and under ISO the images are fine. What I've found with the 6D (only a couple weeks use) is that the ISO performance is amazing. At 6400 the noise is probably equivalent to 800 on the 7D, but the noise is not as unattractive - not sure what the difference is...

The 6D seems to produce a richer image color wise as well.

I love both cameras!
 
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