7DM2 as a FF? Hmmm...

[AprilForever]

I'm curious to know, who thinks the 70D actually is a move upward in the Canon line-up as this rumor says? Personally I think it sits exactly where you would expect an upgrade to sit after three years. It does seem a little skewed though right now when compared to the even older 7D, but the 70D certainly does not move up to occupy the space the 7D - or even the 50D - used to occupy.

I think the 70D is a HUGE step up compared to the 60D. I mean, when the entry level Rebel T5i has pretty much the same burst rate as the 60D, you know things need updating. And if we're talking burst rates, the 70D is the first time since the 40D that the rate has gone above it (7fps vs 6.5fps). There's also the brand new 20.2MP sensor, Digic 5+ processor, Wi-Fi, articulating screen, 7D AF system, AFMA, 12800 native ISO, etc. The 70D is a much needed upgrade for the mid-tier crop cameras.

Now the 70D still has a couple things the 7D does better, such as burst rate and buffer, magnesium body, better weather sealing, 100% VF coverage, and maybe a couple other things, but for the most part the 70D beats the 7D.

What I think this means is the 7D MK2 will be something quite special, and as another poster pointed out, the APS-C version of the 1D X. The 70D you could argue as the APS-C version of the 5D MK3.

7D mk II with integrated grip!

 

[Videoshooter]

I think the 70D is a HUGE step up compared to the 60D. I mean, when the entry level Rebel T5i has pretty much the same burst rate as the 60D, you know things need updating. And if we're talking burst rates, the 70D is the first time since the 40D that the rate has gone above it (7fps vs 6.5fps). There's also the brand new 20.2MP sensor, Digic 5+ processor, Wi-Fi, articulating screen, 7D AF system, AFMA, 12800 native ISO, etc. The 70D is a much needed upgrade for the mid-tier crop cameras.

Now the 70D still has a couple things the 7D does better, such as burst rate and buffer, magnesium body, better weather sealing, 100% VF coverage, and maybe a couple other things, but for the most part the 70D beats the 7D.

What I think this means is the 7D MK2 will be something quite special, and as another poster pointed out, the APS-C version of the 1D X. The 70D you could argue as the APS-C version of the 5D MK3.

Yes, but these are exactly the things you would expect from a replacement camera that is three years newer. I don't believe that (as a few people in this thread have suggested) the 70D is a move upward in the Canon line. On paper, the 70D competes with the ancient 7D quite well, but that still does not mean that wildlife professionals or sports shooters will choose it over the 7D - because it still does not have the build quality for their needs.

As for the 70D being a APS-C version of the 5DmkIII, well, I think that is rather far-fetched. Much closer to a mini-6D, I think!

I see the 70D as being essentially the same camera as the 60D but updated to today's technology - if the 7DmkII delivers an equal improvement over the 7D as the 70D does over the 60D (and I expect it will), then it is sure to be one fine camera... and after the long wait, I damn well hope it delivers!

 

[Don Haines]

What do you guys think of this rumor? I'd only heard rumors before, but thought I'd throw it out into the CR forums to see what you guys all think. Up until now, 7D has been thought of as the flagship for crop sensors. However, is the 70D the new flag-bearer with big changes to come in the FF lineup?

Here's a link to the CanonWatch site where it's discussed:

http://www.canonwatch.com/rumor-eos-70d-will-be-top-of-aps-c-line-up-eos-7d-mark-ii-will-be-entry-level-full-frame/

The rumour is over a year old and says the camera will be released at Photokina.... which has long since passed us by, no camera, rumour is wrong, game over.

 

[rpt]

I wonder what we will talk about once the 7D2 is actually released - I mean other than how DReadful the noise is...