A Bit More About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR2]

What about a full-frame rebel?

Am I the only one who wants to combine Canon's lovely lenses with a high quality FF sensor in a fairly basic body, without heaps of bells and whistles?

I'm concerned that the 6D ii will be too feature packed and as a result abandon the `budget FF' niche it was supposed to occupy. More like a D750 than a D610. Maybe an A7ii is the way to go, or a cheap 6D once it gets superseded...
 
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benkam said:
bardamu said:
What about a full-frame rebel?

Am I the only one who wants to combine Canon's lovely lenses with a high quality FF sensor in a fairly basic body, without heaps of bells and whistles?

I'm concerned that the 6D ii will be too feature packed and as a result abandon the `budget FF' niche it was supposed to occupy. More like a D750 than a D610. Maybe an A7ii is the way to go, or a cheap 6D once it gets superseded...
Not to worry, of course not just you. That's been suggested many times over the years.

What's interesting though is that Canon can do it now if they wanted to, with almost no new R&D. Alongside the what would be more feature-packed 6D Mark II, they could just keep the original 6D in production! Same 20 MP sensor, same 4.5 fps drive, same 11-point AF, same Digic 5+ processor, same single SD slot, same 1080p HD at 30p only. You get the idea. The only new-ish tech they should add there is a (still fixed) touchscreen -- because ven the entry-level SL1/100D has one.

To cut costs, as with the Rebels give it an aluminum frame instead of the 6D's magnesium alloy underneath the polycarbonate. Canon could launch the what would be more feature-packed 6D Mark II at $1,999, and then price the Rebel-ized 6D -- call it the 8D -- at $999.

Many Canon users first found their way through the Rebels and right, a full-frame Rebel could benefit their company the same wayo to, even while they're able to have more intermediate and premium offerings up their product range.
Pentaprism and Mirrorbox always there
It cannot be small
 
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bardamu said:
What about a full-frame rebel?

Am I the only one who wants to combine Canon's lovely lenses with a high quality FF sensor in a fairly basic body, without heaps of bells and whistles?

I'm concerned that the 6D ii will be too feature packed and as a result abandon the `budget FF' niche it was supposed to occupy. More like a D750 than a D610. Maybe an A7ii is the way to go, or a cheap 6D once it gets superseded...

Not to worry, of course not just you. That's been suggested many times over the years.

What's interesting though is that Canon can do it now if they wanted to, with almost no new R&D. Alongside the what would be more upscale 6D Mark II, they could just keep the original 6D in production! Same 20 MP sensor, same 4.5 fps drive, same 11-point AF, same Digic 5+ processor, same single SD slot, same 1080p HD at 30p only. You get the idea. The only new-ish tech they should add there is a (still fixed) touchscreen -- because even the entry-level SL1/100D has one.

To cut costs, as with the Rebels give it an aluminum frame instead of the 6D's magnesium alloy underneath the polycarbonate. Canon could launch the what would be the more feature-packed 6D Mark II at $1,999, and then price the Rebel-ized 6D -- call it the 8D -- at $999.

Many Canon users first found their way through the Rebels and right, a full-frame Rebel could benefit their company the same way too, even while they're able to have more intermediate and premium offerings up their product range.
 
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pokerz said:
benkam said:
bardamu said:
What about a full-frame rebel?

Am I the only one who wants to combine Canon's lovely lenses with a high quality FF sensor in a fairly basic body, without heaps of bells and whistles?

I'm concerned that the 6D ii will be too feature packed and as a result abandon the `budget FF' niche it was supposed to occupy. More like a D750 than a D610. Maybe an A7ii is the way to go, or a cheap 6D once it gets superseded...
Not to worry, of course not just you. That's been suggested many times over the years.

What's interesting though is that Canon can do it now if they wanted to, with almost no new R&D. Alongside the what would be more feature-packed 6D Mark II, they could just keep the original 6D in production! Same 20 MP sensor, same 4.5 fps drive, same 11-point AF, same Digic 5+ processor, same single SD slot, same 1080p HD at 30p only. You get the idea. The only new-ish tech they should add there is a (still fixed) touchscreen -- because ven the entry-level SL1/100D has one.

To cut costs, as with the Rebels give it an aluminum frame instead of the 6D's magnesium alloy underneath the polycarbonate. Canon could launch the what would be more feature-packed 6D Mark II at $1,999, and then price the Rebel-ized 6D -- call it the 8D -- at $999.

Many Canon users first found their way through the Rebels and right, a full-frame Rebel could benefit their company the same wayo to, even while they're able to have more intermediate and premium offerings up their product range.
Pentaprism and Mirrorbox always there
It cannot be small

Not asking for a Rebel FF to be smaller. That would entail new R&D to fit stuff in a Rebel form factor.

The point is to just keep the same old 6D, give it a touchscreen and a cheaper aluminum frame, call it the 8D, price it at $999 and that's it.
 
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bardamu said:
What about a full-frame rebel?

Am I the only one who wants to combine Canon's lovely lenses with a high quality FF sensor in a fairly basic body, without heaps of bells and whistles?

I'm concerned that the 6D ii will be too feature packed and as a result abandon the `budget FF' niche it was supposed to occupy. More like a D750 than a D610. Maybe an A7ii is the way to go, or a cheap 6D once it gets superseded...

The 6D is the full frame "Rebel"
 
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Orangutan said:
Interesting. You'd think the 6DII would largely use tech already developed for the 5D4, slightly down-marketed. I wonder if the delay is for marketing reasons, or to allow time to develop/integrate some new feature.

Integrate some new features ....LMAO

The 5D Mark IV is already two years behind the competition ...... Its a turd and the 6D Mark II unfortunately will be its little turd brother.

Sure the 5D Mark IV is better than its predecessors, BUT its lacking a lot compared to the competition. I suspect that 5D Mark IV will be replaced in 2 1/2 to 3 years instead of the normal 4 year cycle. So be prepared to dish out even more cash on the next 5D Mark V.

Canon needs to be taken behind the wood shed and beaten like a red headed step child for screwing canon users over like this.
 
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ricky_005 said:
The 5D Mark IV is already two years behind the competition ...... Its a turd and the 6D Mark II unfortunately will be its little turd brother.

Sure the 5D Mark IV is better than its predecessors, BUT its lacking a lot compared to the competition.

Please explain why Canon sell so many more cameras than the competition, and why the 5DIV is a bestseller on Amazon and B&H. Actually, don't bother…your explanation would be as asinine as all of your posts.


ricky_005 said:
Canon Pathetic little trolls like me needs to be taken behind the wood shed and beaten like a red headed step child

Fixed that for ya.
 
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I am anxiously awaiting the release of the 6D II. When the final specs are released and the camera is ready for shipment I will decide if it has the features I want for the price I am willing to pay. I wll either buy it or not. Simple as that.

If it is not what I am looking for I will not complain, stomp my feet and clench my fists and threaten never to buy another Canon camera, boycott Canon products or tell the whole world that Canon sucks.

I will simply purchase a different camera. That being said the specs are looking pretty good to me for the type of photography that I do.
 
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hbr said:
If it is not what I am looking for I will not complain, stomp my feet and clench my fists and threaten never to buy another Canon camera, boycott Canon products or tell the whole world that Canon sucks.

I will simply purchase a different camera.

You need to find another forum. Your logical, mature and practical attitude are quite out of place here.

;) ;D
 
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neuroanatomist said:
ricky_005 said:
The 5D Mark IV is already two years behind the competition ...... Its a turd and the 6D Mark II unfortunately will be its little turd brother.

Sure the 5D Mark IV is better than its predecessors, BUT its lacking a lot compared to the competition.

Please explain why Canon sell so many more cameras than the competition, and why the 5DIV is a bestseller on Amazon and B&H. Actually, don't bother…your explanation would be as asinine as all of your posts.


ricky_005 said:
Canon Pathetic little trolls like me needs to be taken behind the wood shed and beaten like a red headed step child

Fixed that for ya.
Nice fix ;D The interesting thing is that he didn't say if he has the camera. I could say something bad about the camera since I have many canon lenses and bodies (so I am heavily invested- plus I like the handling) and I also bought a 5D4 which exhibits the problem. But instead of saying something that bad I returned the camera for a replacement. Now if the replacement copy will exhibit the problem too I will be disappointed in Canon, I will try to get my money back and keep the bodies I have.

EDIT: In addition ricky is off topic! This thread is about 6DII ...
 
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If this is true, I don't need to come back here until next spring. All that I will find until then are posts about other peoples posts and how wrong they are, how bad Canon is etc.

It always seems to go off topic and degrade to attacks on each other.

I currently own a 6D and can't afford a 5D IV. So I will have to wait. If I like the 6D II, and can afford it, then I will consider buying one. Simple, no whining, no attacks, no threats to jump ship. Until then I will enjoy the camera I have.
 
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sunnyVan said:
Because canon knows that the 6d2 will outsell the 5dmkiv. That's why they must postpone it.

The 6D Mark II will always outsell the 5D Mark IV because of the price point. That isn't the reason for the delay. Both cameras will be on the market together for the next 3-4 years. The delay isn't going to make a difference. Two different customers.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
hbr said:
If it is not what I am looking for I will not complain, stomp my feet and clench my fists and threaten never to buy another Canon camera, boycott Canon products or tell the whole world that Canon sucks.

I will simply purchase a different camera.

You need to find another forum. Your logical, mature and practical attitude are quite out of place here.

;) ;D
And if it's not what I am looking for, I'll get a used 6D and save money :)
 
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IglooEater said:
Mac Duderson said:
In the meantime, Canon can we have a 28mm 1.4L BR? :D
I'll love you forever! ;D

I'm curious why 28mm in particular?

Sorry for the late response.
Ya for me and my style there is just something perfect about 28mm and gives a special look that I like. I currently use the new 35mm 1.4BR with a 85mm 1.2Lii for 99% of my wedding photos but there is always many moments that I wish I was a tad bit wider for a more "landscape" shot with the couple and sometimes out in the boonies there isn't enough room to move back. I use to shoot the 24mm but it is just a wee bit too wide and can make people look fishy when up close. Many times I pull out my 28mm 2.8is because it is just perfect for my style and usability. If Canon had a 28mm 1.4 I would probably sell my 35mm.
I like to be able to work fast at weddings without having to swap lenses too much.
Just prefer the look and usability of having a 28mm on one body and a 85mm on the other. Just a preference. ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
ricky_005 said:
The 5D Mark IV is already two years behind the competition ...... Its a turd and the 6D Mark II unfortunately will be its little turd brother.

Sure the 5D Mark IV is better than its predecessors, BUT its lacking a lot compared to the competition.

Please explain why Canon sell so many more cameras than the competition, and why the 5DIV is a bestseller on Amazon and B&H. Actually, don't bother…your explanation would be as asinine as all of your posts.


ricky_005 said:
Canon Pathetic little trolls like me needs to be taken behind the wood shed and beaten like a red headed step child

Fixed that for ya.

Your not a photographer because with 20,000 post on this forum you surely are nothing more than a Shill for Canon ....... So stick that in your Crack pipe!
 
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tron said:
neuroanatomist said:
ricky_005 said:
The 5D Mark IV is already two years behind the competition ...... Its a turd and the 6D Mark II unfortunately will be its little turd brother.

Sure the 5D Mark IV is better than its predecessors, BUT its lacking a lot compared to the competition.

Please explain why Canon sell so many more cameras than the competition, and why the 5DIV is a bestseller on Amazon and B&H. Actually, don't bother…your explanation would be as asinine as all of your posts.


ricky_005 said:
Canon Pathetic little trolls like me needs to be taken behind the wood shed and beaten like a red headed step child

Fixed that for ya.
Nice fix ;D The interesting thing is that he didn't say if he has the camera. I could say something bad about the camera since I have many canon lenses and bodies (so I am heavily invested- plus I like the handling) and I also bought a 5D4 which exhibits the problem. But instead of saying something that bad I returned the camera for a replacement. Now if the replacement copy will exhibit the problem too I will be disappointed in Canon, I will try to get my money back and keep the bodies I have.

EDIT: In addition ricky is off topic! This thread is about 6DII ...

You can pick out the Shills easily on this site ..... Say something that is negative yet true, they all quickly come crawling out from underneath their rocks.
 
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