You gain higher pixel density , if this is 30mp that's nearly double the R5 cropped 17mp.
A BSI APS-C EOS R camera is coming in the second half of 2022 [CR2]
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I'd be happy to pay the same price as an R6 for an APS-C version especially if it's new BSI sensor (hopefully stacked)
Genuine question: Is that still true when it comes to actual detail, with the huge difference in AA filters and sensor tech? A 20MP 1DX3 out resolved my 26MP RP when it came to actual detail, especially after ISO1600. And that's 6MP apart instead of the 3MP between R5-crop and 7D2.
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Will EF-M mount system be dead? Now after the launching of the RF-mount APS-C camera, a series of RF-S series lenses will certainly be developed. Then Cannon can very well launch a RF-S to EF-M mount adapter to keep the EF-M system alive. Is there such a possibility?
What do you think? ^^
Will EF-M mount system be dead? Now after the launching of the RF-mount APS-C camera, a series of RF-S series lenses will certainly be developed. Then Cannon can very well launch a RF-S to EF-M mount adapter to keep the EF-M system alive. Is there such a possibility?
What do you think? ^^
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I'd agree that there will be a niche of people prepared to pay for R7 that is a R6 + APS-C sensor but how would Canon market it and not cannibalise R6 sales especially with the headline (expected) 30mp?I'd be happy to pay the same price as an R6 for an APS-C version especially if it's new BSI sensor (hopefully stacked)
For APS-C I see 2 market niches for a new sensor:
1. $3k R7 with 30mp for 7D replacement (inbetween R6 and R5 like the 7D was)
2. $1k R7 with ~20-24mp for 90D replacement with no EVF
For #1, wide angle lenses aren't a priority as "reach"/pixel density seems to be the key requirement
For #2, there will need to be cheap/small wide angle/kit lenses released
APS-C RF will not kill EF-M. 2 completely different markets for size/price/quality. EF-M will tick along quite nicely for Canon for the foreseeable future without substantial new models.
I don't agree that "a series of RF-S series lenses will certainly be developed"
If the R7 is a high end model then cheap/wide angle lenses aren't essential. The RF lens roadmap shows a RF 18-45mm f/4-5.6 IS STM which would give ~30mm FF equivalent at the wide end for a crop sensor.
If a low end model R7 is released then there will need to be 1-2 kit/zoom lenses specific for APS-C RF mount eg 10-22mm and maybe a 15-85mm.
There isn't a RF-S mount. It is RF mount with potentially a APS-C sensor in it. There isn't an adapter from EF-M to RF mount due to the flange distance. I can't imagine one for any APS-C lens for RF mount.
The advantage could be in higher pixel density. Canon and Nikon made APS-C sensors with higher pixel density than FF sensors for a very long time.
I don’t like the idea of APSC R system but it makes some sense. You got ~2.5 times more reach (for birders, who crop even on 800mm) and second you get cheaper fast camera without cannibalizing high end sports camera
It’s not just Sony BSI. BSI is better by a small percentage, but not as much of an improvement as we’ve see. In the past from new processors.
Why would Canon want to put priority in a camera that only "some" are waiting to buy?
Besides, they already have ONE budget FF (RP) camera. As well as at most ONLY one RF in each price/category range and NO crop RF body.
It's become a ME ME ME and ME First day of age
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Not starting from scratch because old EFS lenses will be adaptable so bigger sensor could cause some extra vignetting maybe.
Hmm, this would be an argument from false equivalence, since barbwire does not get additional accessories to increase functionality on a periodic basis, whereas interchangeable lens cameras get new lenses. This wouldn't be a logically fallacious argument if you were making the comparison to a fixed lens camera, or if barbwire came with the option of a range of water-resistant toxins to coat the tips with!
Sorry, couldn't resist!
You only get more 'reach' if the pixel size is smaller on the APS-C. If Canon would reuse the R3 sensor technology, you'd get a 10MP APS-C sensor and no extra reach compared to the R3 and R5.
Assuming the rumor is true and Canon really do produce a BSI APS-C EOS R camera, they possibly might only need to produce a kit lens that covers something close to the traditional range of 18-55mm (28.8-88mm full frame equivalent), and perhaps something a bit wider, like the old 10-18mm EF-S lens.
I would speculate that the range of lower end budget build lenses released or coming soon would cover most requirements.
- RF 16mm f/2.8 = 25.6mm on APSC
- RF 35mm F/1.8 = 56mm on APSC
- RF 50mm f/1.8 = 80mm on APSC
- RF 85mm f/2 = 136mm on APSC
- RF 100-400 f/5.6-8 = 160-640mm on APSC
- RF 600mm f/11 = 960mm on APSC
- RF 800mm f/11 = 1,280mm on APSC
It wouldn't be the first time that APSC users have used full frame budget Canon lenses, the legendary nifty-fifty EF 50m f/1.8 STM was full frame glass after all, Canon never produced a 50mm EF-S lens, the closest was the 60mm EF-S Macro,
This is a purely speculative minimalist option that Canon may take, or they might not and produce a swag of budget crop lenses. It depends on what the market wants / what will sell, or what the sales strategy is, neither of which we know anything about.
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Yes, I realize there's an M6-2, I was referring to an RF mount equivalent. I see great reviews for the M6-2 but you don't get the same form factor or battery as the R models, and I'd guestimate that the ef-m mount is in it's winter years. My hope is to see it eventually lead to an RF rebel camera. The more RF cameras, the more chance for new lens options to come into play.
I'd love to see a 500m f/1.8 lens. A bit heavy for me though. And I wonder what the mfd of a 500m lens would be? Perfect for a bird 1km away, I guess.
Why would Canon want to put priority in a camera that only "some" are waiting to buy?
Besides, they already have ONE budget FF (RP) camera. As well as at most ONLY one RF in each price/category range and NO crop RF body.
It's become a ME ME ME and ME First day of age
an FF with worst battery ever. THIS new one SHOULD be what the RP SHOULD have been.
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