A Canon DSLR Rumor Roundup Heading into 2018

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In the next week or so, we’ll be seeing the announcement of at least 4 lenses, an <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/clarification-corrections-on-the-upcoming-new-lenses-from-canon-cr2/">EF 85mm f/1.4L IS as well as three new tilt shift lenses, a TS-50mm f/2.8L Macro, TS-90mm f/2.8L Macro and a TS-E 135mm f/4L Macro</a>. We’ll also see the EOS M100 mirrorless camera announced around the same time.</p>
<p>We have seen mentions of a new entry level  Rebel being announced, but we don’t usually hear too much about those.</p>
<p>Beyond that, we aren’t going to be seeing new Canon DSLR until early 2018. We’ve been told that there is likely going to be a “shakeup” as far as prosumer APS-C DSLRs go. The source is trying to find out what the “shake-up will be”, but I think by the time 2018 rolls around, both the EOS 80D and EOS 7D Mark II are going to be ready for an update. Canon  cannot wait 5 years again for a sequel to the EOS 7D Mark II.</p>

<p>We should also see our first 4K APS-C camera from Canon in 2018. Whether it is in mirrorless or DSLR form remains to be seen.</p>
<p>The same source says the roadmap shows a replacement for the EOS 5DS and EOS  5DS R coming in 2018 as well. It’s expected by the source that Canon will amalgamate the two high megapixel bodies into one model. Nikon did the same thing after the D800 and D800E, as we only saw the D810.</p>
<p>What was interesting is that a “professional EOS-1” is said to be starting in-the-field testing in 2018. That doesn’t mean we’ll see a new body next year, but 2018 is an Olympic and FIFA World  Cup  year, which usually (but not always) lends itself to some new prosumer/professional gear.</p>
<p>There was no mention of a full frame mirrorless camera from this source.</p>
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sebasan said:
I hope Canon realize that 5 years cycle of update it is too much. 3 years should be the goal. I know there are not too many advances, but the market is going to be very competitive

If they're going to release a new 5dsr that will be about 3 years. Hope that's true! Not that I'm having any problems or limitations with the original one - I'm super excited :)
 
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perhaps Canon's lacklustre performance is less due to commercial decisions and simply because they are having trouble competing technically. I suspect they have lost a lot of talented engineers and are simply unable to design and build the goods.

Personally I don't buy into the line of thought that Canon are inhibiting 4K capabilities in order to avoid cannibalizing their Video camera line ... I think they are simply unable to design and build high quality 4K with highly compressed files because of heatsink problems ...

Sometimes companies lose their good engineers and can't find adequate replacements.

Perhaps Canon are simply doomed for technical reasons ...
 
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To bring the naming conventions discussion over from another thread and to make it relevant to this thread's suggestion of an APS-C shake-up: I'm thoroughly excited about the forthcoming announcement of the 888D! It's about time the sub-77D users who have progressed beyond 800D standards had a camera to fulfill their needs!

Also: *Winter Olympics (not too pedantic to say so, is it?)
 
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rjbray01 said:
perhaps Canon's lacklustre performance is less due to commercial decisions and simply because they are having trouble competing technically. I suspect they have lost a lot of talented engineers and are simply unable to design and build the goods.

Personally I don't buy into the line of thought that Canon are inhibiting 4K capabilities in order to avoid cannibalizing their Video camera line ... I think they are simply unable to design and build high quality 4K with highly compressed files because of heatsink problems ...

Sometimes companies lose their good engineers and can't find adequate replacements.

Perhaps Canon are simply doomed for technical reasons ...

And where are all those engineers going to? Nikon and Sony? lol Do you have any proof?
 
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hambergler said:
neuroanatomist said:
rjbray01 said:
perhaps Canon's lacklustre performance

...is a figment of your imagination.

Nikon down 10%
Canon as a company is flat over the last 5 years
Sony has tripled in value
S&P 500 has gone up 66%

Looking at it that way lackluster seems accurate.

that's only because they were near bankruptcy 5 years ago, and they got themselves back on even track selling off assets.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
In the next week or so, we’ll be seeing the announcement of at least 4 lenses, an <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/clarification-corrections-on-the-upcoming-new-lenses-from-canon-cr2/">EF 85mm f/1.4L IS as well as three new tilt shift lenses, a TS-50mm f/2.8L Macro, TS-90mm f/2.8L Macro and a TS-E 135mm f/4L Macro</a>. We’ll also see the EOS M100 mirrorless camera announced around the same time.</p>
<p>We have seen mentions of a new entry level Rebel being announced, but we don’t usually hear too much about those.</p>
<p>Beyond that, we aren’t going to be seeing new Canon DSLR until early 2018. We’ve been told that there is likely going to be a “shakeup” as far as prosumer APS-C DSLRs go.

maybe canon will go mirrorless with the cheaper APS-C line, especially now that the performance is adequate. if they can robotically build the mirrorless cameras, you'd think this would be the way canon will go long term. keep the EF mount, and the general ergonomics and shove an EVF in there and voila. an easier to build rebel.

now that'd be a shakeup.
 
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Mikehit said:
hambergler said:
Nikon down 10%
Canon as a company is flat over the last 5 years
Sony has tripled in value
S&P 500 has gone up 66%

Looking at it that way lackluster seems accurate.

It's easy to triple from a very small baseline in a specialist sector

Exactly 10 years ago today, Sony traded at $46.33. Today, Sony trades at $38.77 That's actually pretty bad :) In 2008, it actually dropped below $20.

http://charting.nasdaq.com/ext/charts.dll?2-1-14-0-0-5120-03NA000000SNE-&SF:1|5-BG=FFFFFF-BT=0-WD=635-HT=395--XTBL-

But I mean, cameras are just a blip on Sony's financials.


rjbray01 said:
Personally I don't buy into the line of thought that Canon are inhibiting 4K capabilities in order to avoid cannibalizing their Video camera line ... I think they are simply unable to design and build high quality 4K with highly compressed files because of heatsink problems ...

Oh, I see. Canon doesn't sell a 4k camera because their engineers can't figure out how to build a 4k camera. You know, I'd say that theory were bang on, if only Canon didn't have a 4k camera.

And yeah, I read on those interwebs that certain cameras were shooting very hot and even overheating shooting 4k. What brand was that? Hmmm. Maybe they're having trouble finding qualified engineers or something.
 
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Talys said:
And yeah, I read on those interwebs that certain cameras were shooting very hot and even overheating shooting 4k. What brand was that? Hmmm. Maybe they're having trouble finding qualified engineers or something.
I was getting overheating warnings in my A7r shooting 1080/24. Sure, it was 85-90 degrees out, but, my GH4 was trucking along nicely shooting 1080/60 and 4k/24 without issue.

Definitely a heatsink issue. Sony body is way too small to have enough heatsink, while the GH4 (with a m4/3 sensor) has an 80D size body
 
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sebasan said:
I hope Canon realize that 5 years cycle of update it is too much. 3 years should be the goal. I know there are not too many advances, but the market is going to be very competitive

I almost wonder if this doesn't have more to do with Wi-Fi and touchscreen support than anything, but they'll throw in a new sensor for sure.

I'm still hoping Canon, someday, brings back APS-H. It's a long dead meme at this point, but that sure would shake up the enthusiast level market.
 
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On altering the 5 year refresh timing of the 7D line: why? Because the D500 + 200-500 is stealing 7D2 business, flipping Canon users to Nikon, etc? I'll buy it when I see the data. But we have no data. The D500 is celebrated for its spec list and user experience, but that doesn't necessarily translate to converting Canonites. It might just be a nice product for Nikonians to enjoy and nothing more.

On a 5DS in 2018: Unlikely based on past timing/track record, but I'll actually say it's possible. I'm one of the people looking at the release calendar, past track record, etc. and arguing against Canon going any faster on a refresh than that 'level' of camera should warrant...

7D: 5 years
Most FF models: 4-ish years
XXD: 3 years
XXXD: 2 years

...but that creates an annoying 5DS syncopation / delay with the historical 1DX#/5D#/6D# rollout. Consider: the 5DS is now sitting without DPAF, touchscreen, 4K, Wifi, DPRAW or the larger base ISO DR performance of the 5D4 and 1DX2. So you can choose highest resolution or latest-gen tech.

So there is an argument for a one-time 'schedule quickening' for the 5DS to better line it up with the 5D4 so that there is no feature envy between the 5DS and 5D# lines.

- A
 
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hambergler said:
neuroanatomist said:
rjbray01 said:
perhaps Canon's lacklustre performance

...is a figment of your imagination.

Nikon down 10%
Canon as a company is flat over the last 5 years
Sony has tripled in value
S&P 500 has gone up 66%

Looking at it that way lackluster seems accurate.
Interesting, somehow Sony has been growing at a steady rate while Canon seems to have stuck their head in ground disregarding Sony and other Mirrorless competition.
 
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