A Lens Roadmap? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>Lots of lenses mentioned

</strong>I received what appears to be some kind of lens roadmap. I only ever remember seeing a communication like this one once in the past.  There are definitely some interesting concepts listed. Take all of this with the grain of salt.</p>
<ul>
<li>EF 50 1.8 IS, status “prototype”, has tag “spring 2013″</li>
<li>EF 50 2.5 macro was tagged with “to be replaced”</li>
<li>EF 200 2.8 L IS macro is tagged with “testing”, “patents pending”, and “autumn 2013″</li>
<li>EF 24-70 2.8 L II tagged “final”, “winter 2011″</li>
<li>EF 100-400 4-5.6 L IS tagged “final”, “autumn 2012″</li>
<li>EF 35 1.4 L II tagged “prototype”, “winter 2012″</li>
<li>EF 60 L IS lens tagged “prototype”</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Some odd duck EF-S zooms</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>EF-S 20-65 IS</li>
<li>EF-S 45-105 IS status “development”</li>
<li>EF-S 55-70 IS “testing”</li>
<li>EF-S 70-400 IS “prototype”</li>
</ul>
<div>The one that seems the most interesting above is the EF 50 f/1.8 IS. That could become a replacement to the 50 f/1.4 and put some separation between it and the 50 f/1.2L.</div>
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[Loswr]

EF 24-70 2.8 L II tagged “final”, “winter 2011″

Ok, but by my reckoning, right now it's winter 2012. So, if the 24-70 II was final in winter 2011, what does that mean for the other lenses? Or does winter start earlier in Japan?

 

[panopticon]

- EF-S 55-70 IS “testing”
Errrhhh... 55-70?

 

[docsmith]

Agreed that the "winter 2011" thing is a little funny, but I can see someone calling Nov/Dec 2011 "winter 2011"....and of course there is the whole half the world that is south of the equator.

I don't through the word love around casually....but I would love if this list proved accurate. Based on what we just saw, I doubt I will love the prices, but, assuming good quality, I would quickly buy about 3-4 of those lenses.

 

[Haydn1971]

Hmmm... So where are the f2.0 EF-S zooms ?

I'm warm to a high quality sub L 70-400mm EF-S, but would prefer an EF-S extender and L quality 70-300mm EF-S

 

[lol]

I'd say right now could be called winter 2011. As in, the northern hemisphere winter, which started end of 2011.

But those EF-S lenses have also left me a little head scratching.

EF-S 20-65 IS - If you make the BIG assumption of an EF-S compatible 1.3x crop sensor, the focal length would be about right for a standard zoom: 26-85 equiv.

EF-S 45-105 IS and EF-S 55-70 IS - could make sense as a prime alternative if made very fast, say constant f/2 or faster?

EF-S 70-400 IS - never saw the point of an EF-S long focal length lens, but if they make it cheap enough (perhaps half the 100-400L) I guess it could generate enough interest.

 

[mathino]

EF 24-70 2.8 L II tagged “final”, “winter 2011″

Ok, but by my reckoning, right now it's winter 2012. So, if the 24-70 II was final in winter 2011, what does that mean for the other lenses? Or does winter start earlier in Japan?

I think, that this lens was ready (end of developement and probably testing) before end of year - that could be a reason for "final". I don't know why they hold it back, but there was also info about January announcement. Just my 2 cents to discussion

 

[Ricku]

All I want from this lens is the 35L II.

The current version is stellar, so it will be interesting to see how they can improve it.

 

[mathino]

All I want from this lens is the 35L II.

The current version is stellar, so it will be interesting to see how they can improve it.

I'm also waiting for info about this lens. Current version is great.

But I can assure you that one thing will get "improvement" to higher level - price.

 

[Ellen Schmidtee]

I wouldn't even consider buying any of those.

Considering the review of the new Samyang 24mm f/1.4 I've just read, make an EF 24mm f/2 USM with good IQ and a reasonable price, and I'll buy one.

 

[tt]

<li>EF 50 1.8 IS, status “prototype”, has tag “spring 2013″</li>
<li>EF 24-70 2.8 L II tagged “final”, “winter 2011″</li>
<li>EF 35 1.4 L II tagged “prototype”, “winter 2012″</li>

<div>The one that seems the most interesting above is the EF 50 f/1.8 IS. That could become a replacement to the 50 f/1.4 and put some separation between it and the 50 f/1.2L.</div>

Let's say the roadmap is accurate, but about 3-4 quarters delayed. We're unlikely to be seeing that 50mm f/1.8 IS till another 18 months, conservatively.
Same goes unfortunately for the 35mm 1.4 - prototype in another 9-15 months? Guessing the previous rumors of it being replaced are very much whispers if the release date's that far away.

 

[Lee Jay]

For me, I think it no longer matters. I bought the 70-200/2.8L IS II and 2x TC III since I got sick of waiting for a 100-400L replacement. The 24-70/2.8L II has no IS so it's a non-starter to replace my 24-105. My 35L is so good I can't figure out why I'd ever replace it. My Sigma 15mm fisheye is a stop faster than the Canon 8-15 zoom fisheye, and the Sigma is an L-prime optically. The 17-40L and 85/1.8 get very little use but both are pretty solid performers when I need them. The most interesting new lens I'm looking at is a 2,800mm f/10 or a 2032mm f/8, and neither is from Canon.

 

[EYEONE]

I'd really like to see a 14-24mm L on that list.

55-70mm?

 

[mathino]

I'd really like to see a 14-24mm L on that list.

55-70mm?

Patent for such a lens exists as you can see here:

http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/12/canon-lens-patents-review/

If I'm correct it was published with 70-200 f/2.8L IS II. There is also a 60mm f/2.8 IS Macro in those three patents (looks like maybe not 60L but 60 f/2.8 Macro). Those new primes are quiet surprise too.

 

[Woody]

After seeing Canon's patent for a 14-24 f/2.8L, I am rather disappointed there's no mention of this lens.

 

[unfocused]

A 200mm 2.8 that replaces the current 200mm 2.8 "L" and also has macro capabilities could be very interesting.

The EF-S list does seem very strange and has me doubting this.

One odd thought occurred to me though – could the EF-S list be referring to full-frame equivalents? For example an EF-S lens that is the equivalent of a full frame 20-65mm would make some sense.

On the other hand, I guess some of these might make sense if these were were fast, "L" quality lenses. An f1.8 or f2 20-65 (equivalent to 35-100) would be a very nice portrait lens and probably quite useful for wedding photographers using a 7D or 7DII.

Trying to keep it in perspective though. It is CR1 and most of the non-EF-S lenses would be pretty easy for anyone to guess if they just read this forum regularly.

 

[mathino]

After seeing Canon's patent for a 14-24 f/2.8L, I am rather disappointed there's no mention of this lens.

...sure, no mention about it. I'd like to see such a lens (as many of us, Canon shooters). But was there any info abou 28 f/2.8 IS USM ? Lenses are always difficult to predict because there are loads of patents floating around.

 

[jimmy156]

hmm The EF-S 70-400 is an interesting one for me. Although has others have said i have been led to understrand (from this site) that there is no advantage to telephoto ef-s lenses.

If priced well (£800ish) this could see Canon taking away a lot of sales from the like of Sigma and Tamron who offer good quality 400-500mm zooms in this price bracket (Sigma 120-400 and 150-500 etc) and who cant stretch to the 100-400L which is over £1200.

If the new 100-400mm is nearer £2000 as rumored, there would be room for an ef-s 70-400 in the sub £1000 bracket.

 

[Raddy]

Agreed that the "winter 2011" thing is a little funny, but I can see someone calling Nov/Dec 2011 "winter 2011"....and of course there is the whole half the world that is south of the equator.

This is how I would use that tearm. A winter starts in the "old" year and ends the next, at least it won't be confusing to me. I'd say somehow common here in germany.

 

[EOBeav]

So help me understand this. Canon is admitting that the image quality between the 50mm f/1.4 and the 50mm f/1.2 is negligible. To fix that, they're going to nuke one of the most popular lens values on the market, and force the consumer to choose between the cheaper, more inferior f/1.8 and the much more expensive f/1.2. Am I understanding that correctly?

I have the f/1.4, and while it has it's flaws, I'm not giving it up anytime soon. Of course, all of this is assuming that the proposed f/1.8 II IS is a replacement for the f/1.4, and that build/image quality of the new lens still isn't up to that of the f/1.4. I would just hate to see them give up a lens for people like me, who don't have a pro budget but still understand the value of quality glass on their camera.