A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]

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I also got the Sigma a while ago for the exact reasons stated above: None of Canon's 50mm offerings was really compelling.

I have to say: Overall, the Sigma is a great lens but it too has downsides:
- It's big and heavy for a 50mm f/1.4 – therefore it's not a lens I take with me all the time
- You get to play the infamous Sigma autofocus lottery: Had to send in my copy twice until they got it right – it's okay now but still not as reliable as my Canon lenses in that regard

One of the strongest points of this lens is the way it renders bokeh - just looks fantastic.
 
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foobar said:
- You get to play the infamous Sigma autofocus lottery: Had to send in my copy twice until they got it right – it's okay now but still not as reliable as my Canon lenses in that regard

Please remind me - what is that lottery about: front/backfocussing, unreliable or uprecise af? I'd like to know because if I'd get a 50mm, it'd be the Sigma.
 
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I don't care what Canon comes up with.. 1.8 IS, new 1.4…
Whatever, as long as it is better than the current 1.4 version i'm happy…and hopefully not that expensive.
BUT i do hope it's not going to be STM…nothing beats USM..i'll gladly pay more for USM
 
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infared said:
.......but based on the LAME Canon 50mm offering...I went for the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 (and yeah....all those other letters they had to attach to the name?). I have to say...my Sigma lens is quite excellent ...I have never had a complaint using it unless it was photographer error (Me. LOL!). ...........................


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Great bokeh, handles well on my 7D + BG
 
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Marsu42 said:
foobar said:
- You get to play the infamous Sigma autofocus lottery: Had to send in my copy twice until they got it right – it's okay now but still not as reliable as my Canon lenses in that regard

Please remind me - what is that lottery about: front/backfocussing, unreliable or uprecise af? I'd like to know because if I'd get a 50mm, it'd be the Sigma.

Marsu...check this link about the Sigma 50mm....scroll to the bottom and read "Rogers Take". that about sums it up...but my lens seems to work just fine. http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/normal-range/sigma-50mm-f1.4-hsm-for-canon
 
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Marsu42 said:
Please remind me - what is that lottery about: front/backfocussing, unreliable or uprecise af? I'd like to know because if I'd get a 50mm, it'd be the Sigma.
Mine had front/backfocus issues, which are now fixed.
I also have a 30mm which was spot on right from the start.
 
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My take on the new crop of small Canon primes is that most of us wanted true Ring USM in the 24/28/35/50. What we're getting is stopped down apertures with IS and a HUGE price increase. Does it seem as though Canon is not listening or are the complainers not embracing the vision? Does the addition of IS outweigh the f stop? The blades are better in the newer versions so the bokeh is sweeter but do they seem suited mainly for video (IS/STM) and thus the complaints come from the stills crowd?

I'd like a new 50 as well. I'd like it 1.8 or faster, true ring USM and a bit more solidly built than the 1.4. I'm not asking for IS so if that's what's driving these primes past 700 than I guess I'll keep waiting.
 
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japhoto said:
There’s no doubt in my mind Canon is working on a couple of new 50mm lenses.

This is good news since none of the present lenses are worthy of my money.

-50 1.8 = a toy lens, too few aperture blades
-50 1.4 = more expensive toy lens, prone to breaking (also had one and didn't like it)
-50 1.2 = expensive and with problems like focus shift
-Sigma 50 1.4 = could be good if by some miracle one could find a decent specimen

If I'm not missing anything, these are the autofocusing lenses for Canon at the moment. So after that short listing I welcome new additions to the lineup (and IS of course, it's a life-saver for me).
You missed the Canon EF 50mm Compact Macro f/2.5, I don't know anything about it though, having never used it.
 
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samueljay said:
You missed the Canon EF 50mm Compact Macro f/2.5, I don't know anything about it though, having never used it.

It's discontinued and now rests in well-earned obscurity as outdated tech. Though it is very sharp and rivals or is better than the 50/1.4, it has the horrible 80's-style af motor and is superseded by the ef-s 60 & ef 100 macros with longer working distance.
 
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Marsu42 said:
It's discontinued and now rests in well-earned obscurity as outdated tech. Though it is very sharp and rivals or is better than the 50/1.4, it has the horrible 80's-style af motor and is superseded by the ef-s 60 & ef 100 macros with longer working distance.

Possibly a hint that one of the new 50s maybe a macro that can command a premium price.

The 40 was a very intriguing product for me in that the build quality is up, IQ is excellent and the price a bargain. This last thing being the most puzzling as Canon have been exuberantly pushing up the price of their latest lenses. What that means for the new 50s is open to conjecture( as we have seen here).

The 50 1.8 has always been a bargain lens with great quality but build that falls short of other lenses in the lineup. A new 50 f2.0 with IS and stellar IQ, USM, IS and the build of the 40 would likely have a price in the neighborhood of $800 if the new wides are any guide.
 
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Thanks for the link - when did you buy the Sigma? Often these issues seem to be silently fixed by manufacturers, including Canon (like the not very durable on the first 17-55 lenses).
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Bought mine a little over a year ago...The lens is always surprisingly sharp...The only BAD thing about the lens is the UGLY mirrored gold band ...Just makes the lens look soooo cheap. so......I got some cool pin-striping tape and covered mine up. I couldn't stand to look at it! LOL!
 
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Interested if:

- 1.4 not 1.8
- USM ring
- round aperture
- sharp wide open
- IS (sure why not)
- great build quality, weather sealed (new 1.4 50L? not likely)
- reasonable price

Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming.
 
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Drizzt321 said:
As long as they keep the price low, even $200 or so like the forty shorty, this could be good to have in the lineup. Don't get rid of the current 50 1.8! It's such a great price for people just getting started to get a fairly fast prime at a good focal length.
If this is considered a replacement for the 50mm f/1.4 (as the post states), you won't see the retail price cheaper than $399. More likely it'll be $500+. If this is a replacement for the 50mm f/1.8, then you might get lucky and see $249 or $299. But, then why would anyone buy the 40mm pancake, when you could gain f/1.8 and IS for $50?

So yeah, I'd say $399 is the low price, more likely to see $599.
 
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