A Rundown of Canon at Photokina

kevl said:
Here's hoping these are not the actual specs for the 7DII I was hoping to put this body in my bag as a second camera.

I bet these are the real specs.
It would be typicall for Canon (aka Boring).

Compare that to these specs:



- 28 MP APS-C CMOS Sensor (ISOCELL tech)
- DRIMe Image Signal Processor
- ISO 100-51200
- 15 fps with tracking.
- UHD 4K 3840×2160 at 30p/24p
- Full HD up to 60p
- 3″ Tiltable AMOLED Touch Display
- Water and dust proof
- Wi-Fi and NFC Connectivity
- Magnesium Alloy, Weather-Sealed Body
- Vertical grip available.
- Will announce revolutionary PD system.
- Slightly bigger body than NX30.
- Body design matches with 16-50 F2.0-F2.8 lens.
- Best high ISO performance and EVF among crop sensor bodies.
- Available on the market in October (TBD)
- Not retro design but similar with Mamiya?

Design: it is THE NX flagship! look just like any other DSLR Flagship. buttons and wheels.
Sensor: definitely not a normal CMOS sensor. either BSI or ISOCELL.
Engine: Brand new Drime engine, multi-core powered.
Continuous shots: Yes, 15 fps with tracking. (Not confirmed full image or not)
2nd gen. PD AF: More than 200 PD sensors from corner to corner on the image sensor. 154 cross sensors among them.
Card: Support UHS-2 memory card.
Lenses: 50-150mm F2.8, another 'S' Lens is coming.

I know there is the telephoto lens problem for Samsung.
But for the body that looks pretty good on paper.

Canons hallmark is not innovation, it´s solid performance.
That´s fine but also boring.

People say Canon as market leader does not have to push the boundries.
Can be conservative in it´s position.

Well we have seen how that worked out for other market leaders in the past.

I only hope the 7D MK2 does not show this ugly noise i hate on the 7D.
Some images are perfectly fine and then you shoot at the same ISO in another situation and you think it´s a completely different camera.
I never had such issues with my Canon FF cameras.
I don´t speak about the FF having less noise, it´s that the 7D seems to be unpredictable in some situations.
Some skys look fine at ISO 800 and the other day it looks like sprinkeld with big sandkorns.
 
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As the Canon 7D was my most trusted, reliable, consistent camera ever for what seems like a lifetime (can't say the same for my 5dIII), Canon could produce a 7DII with only better ISO performance and otherwise the same specs and I would still insta-buy that camera ;)
 
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NancyP said:
We should enjoy the cameras we have, look forward to updating features we need or want, and be polite to fellow readers and commenters.

ok now, that is crazy talk! ;D

I would be 100% happy with the posted specs if they can clean up the Mid ISO noise. My copy of the 7D is ok at ISO 400, turns pretty bad at 800 and totally un-usable at 1600 on up. If they can make a clean ISO 800 and a usable 1600 I would be very happy.

I know that tollerance of noise is different person to person so to compare I guess I can say that I feel that the noise on the 5D3 is clean at 3200 usable at 6400 and too much for my taste above that.


All this being said if the sensor's noise does not improve I do not see any use for a 24mm f2.8 for crop-only cameras. For indoor photos f2.8 is not fast enough to go without a flash unless you are at 1600-3200 and if you are going to put a flash on the camera all of the size advantage is gone. you may as well stick with the kit 18-55.
 
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Canon will have a few of the white ones to try at Photokina... that is the most interesting part i guess. At least when it comes to Canon.

A few FPS junkies will like the 7D II im sure and will be impressed by it´s 10 FPS.
While other companys will show DSLR cameras that shoot 10-15 FPS with better IQ and mirrorless Cameras who shot around 20 FPS.

But then Canon has a nice Lens collection and that saves the day, again.
Even without a long awaited 100-400mm or a fast UWZ.

Oh and there is finally a 1" Powershot that maybe can keep up with it´s competition. Thought it´s possible it will be 2/3 inch and the rumors are wrong.
 
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ahsanford said:
Act444 said:
preppyak said:
Canon Rumors said:
EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM
I'm guessing this means the 24-105L is at the end of the line? Or will they have 3 lenses, this (replacing the 28-135), the 24-105L, and the 24-70f/4L?

That's my thinking.

Although I don't really like that we have to lose the 106-135mm, especially as the only zoom lenses that reach beyond 105mm (besides the 70-xxx series) is the monster 28-300. BTW, a non-L version of that would be nice

Agree. If that new variable max aperture 24-105 lens is offered, I doubt it will have a red ring. Such a lens should replace the 28-135 as the budget zoom for FF rigs.

But I find it really surprising that Canon would offer a new "FF only" lens (i.e. a [24mm - anything] lens works fine on crop but folks will feel handcuffed on the wide end) at the launch of the 7D2. So I put a ton more faith in the 15-85 and 18-135 rumors than the 24-105 rumors.

- A

Why can't they offer all of them? The more options the better, no?
 
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