After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?

[KKCFamilyman]

I purchased the 5d3 a month ago and love it but sometimes the images can be soft and the focus system tricky. I was curious how dpreview can still say that the noise is even better controlled than the 5d3. Basically they do not say in anyway the 5d3 is better except the focus system and fps but really thats not much. Any thoughts?

 

[smithy]

We'll just have to wait and see how the review for the 5D3 turns out, won't we?

IMHO, FPS and AF performance are *big* things - the two things that made me decide to never purchase a 5D2. They are the difference between getting the shot, and not getting the shot. 36MP is a lot of blurry pixels if your image is out of focus or you've missed that critical moment...

Which cameras have you used before the 5D3, KKCFamilyman? And which lenses are you using on it?

 

[bernardovaghi]

I purchased the 5d3 a month ago and love it but sometimes the images can be soft and the focus system tricky. I was curious how dpreview can still say that the noise is even better controlled than the 5d3. Basically they do not say in anyway the 5d3 is better except the focus system and fps but really thats not much. Any thoughts?

Tell you dude, i will stick with the Mark III for some reasons. I shot Nikon for the last 4 years, D700, D7000, D300, D90, D70s, superb cameras. I already owned a lot of glass: 85mm 1.4, 50mm 1.4, 12-24, 80-200 (sold). The main motivation to switch brands at this point is for the lack of compromise from Nikon with the costumers. They don't deliver the products. Enter now on the BH site and see how many products out of stock, from lenses to bodys. This make the market overpriced, lens that costs $500,00 be sold for $1.000,00. D800 bodys sold by $5.000,00, but no, the price is not the "Aquiles Ankle". If your D800 body breaks, how many time you will wait to replace it? And the replace parts, how much will cost? Same for the lenses. Another reason: Video Mode. Canon upgraded the sensor for video: moire, aliasing and noise are dramatically improved (also resolution lost :-X ). Nikon produces more moire than my iPhone. This are multimedia days, this type of fail on video mode is deal breaker. Set of lenses: Nikon don't have an intermediate set of zoom lenses with great quality and price. 70-200 f4 (IS) , 17-40, 24-105, 300mm f/4 (IS) are superb lenses at affordable price. I shoot both systems side by side. When you buy a body, you must pay attention to the system you are buying, not just the body. For my needs, i can produce great images with canon or nikon bodys, but i prefer the multimedia spirit of Canon. If i get a client for a big campaign, only studio work, models, i rent a D800 on demand for that. If you pixel-peep, don't know nothing of pos production, and can't live with the fact that the sony sensor is better and sharper, take the D800. (sorry for my english not my native language)

Cheers,

Bernardo Vaghi
www.bernardovaghi.com.br

 

[iso79]

I purchased the 5d3 a month ago and love it but sometimes the images can be soft and the focus system tricky. I was curious how dpreview can still say that the noise is even better controlled than the 5d3. Basically they do not say in anyway the 5d3 is better except the focus system and fps but really thats not much. Any thoughts?

How about you shoot more and learn your camera better instead of relying on dpreview's reviews that take 2 years to be published?

 

[UrbanVoyeur]

After DPREVIEW of D800 would you still get the Canon 5d mark iii?

No, I will not.
But then I didn't think the 5DMkIII was worth the price before the review either.

 

[cliffwang]

No, I will not.
But then I didn't think the 5DMkIII was worth the price before the review either.

I guess I won't either because I have too many Canon lenses. I might just wait for 5D3 price drop or keep using my 5D2 till 5D4 release.
However, I told many my friend switch to D800 if they don't have many EF mount lenses.

 

[RuneL]

We'll just have to wait and see how the review for the 5D3 turns out, won't we?

IMHO, FPS and AF performance are *big* things - the two things that made me decide to never purchase a 5D2. They are the difference between getting the shot, and not getting the shot. 36MP is a lot of blurry pixels if your image is out of focus or you've missed that critical moment...

Which cameras have you used before the 5D3, KKCFamilyman? And which lenses are you using on it?

I absolutely agree. I borrowed a 5D II just as it came out meaning to replace a 1D II with it, but the AF and speed of it were just deal breakers for me. But now I'd probably get the 5D III instead of upgrading my 1D IV to the 1D X

 

[SuperCrazySamurai]

I purchased the 5d3 a month ago and love it but sometimes the images can be soft and the focus system tricky. I was curious how dpreview can still say that the noise is even better controlled than the 5d3. Basically they do not say in anyway the 5d3 is better except the focus system and fps but really thats not much. Any thoughts?

How about you shoot more and learn your camera better instead of relying on dpreview's reviews that take 2 years to be published?

Very well said, the camera is just a hammer, its up to you on how you use it. IMHO, Its a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

Cheers!

 

[Otter]

The D800 is a better camera. I'm a Canon guy and I always have been. I'm not going to switch because Nikon wins one round. I am also not interested in 36 MP's. But based on most of the reviews that I have read and watched when the two cameras are put head to head, whether it's low ISO performance, Dynamic Range ect, it seems the D800 ends up on top.
However that does not mean the MKIII is not a great camera and it does do a lot of things great. I am going to pick one up when I get the money and it doesn't bother me that the D800 is rated higher. Do I wish the MKIII had a higher rating when I'm spending $500 more on the MKIII over the D800. Most definitely but it won't affect me purchasing the MKIII.

 

[Daniel Flather]

You mean the D800 has a good review? Damn, better sell all my L glass and jump to Nikon based one one guy's opinion. My friend with his iPhone can pwn my images more times that I'd like to admit.

 

[RuneL]

The D800 is a better camera. I'm a Canon guy and I always have been. I'm not going to switch because Nikon wins one round. I am also not interested in 36 MP's. But based on most of the reviews that I have read and watched when the two cameras are put head to head, whether it's low ISO performance, Dynamic Range ect, it seems the D800 ends up on top.
However that does not mean the MKIII is not a great camera and it does do a lot of things great. I am going to pick one up when I get the money and it doesn't bother me that the D800 is rated higher. Do I wish the MKIII had a higher rating when I'm spending $500 more on the MKIII over the D800. Most definitely but it won't affect me purchasing the MKIII.

The things you mention aren't always the most important factors in a camera. Why not use a IQ180 if you want the best? Answer that and you'll see why parts of your post are downright stupid.

 

[DavidRiesenberg]

Now I am certain that I will switch. My e-peen and internet respetz are too important to sacrifice by using the 5DIII.

 

[KKCFamilyman]

We'll just have to wait and see how the review for the 5D3 turns out, won't we?

IMHO, FPS and AF performance are *big* things - the two things that made me decide to never purchase a 5D2. They are the difference between getting the shot, and not getting the shot. 36MP is a lot of blurry pixels if your image is out of focus or you've missed that critical moment...

Which cameras have you used before the 5D3, KKCFamilyman? And which lenses are you using on it?

canon 60d
17-55 2.8
15-85 usm
18-200mm
18-135
18-55
50 1.8
24-105l

I think its great and wonder if its sharpness might be better served with a different lens. I was considering the 50 1.4 or 70-200 f4is to add reach. I am keeping it since due to a mistake with my local dealer i only paid $3570 out the door for the kit. Even any upcoming 70d ff option will not beat that deal. I don't have anymore ef mount lenses so i was just curious if anyone else felt the nikon was better if you were no longer invested in glass.

 

[KKCFamilyman]

Ohh and a lot of review sites a saying the nikon d800 is better so I just did not consider dpreviews opinion.

 

[Jakontil]

lol not a chance....

 

[awinphoto]

In a heartbeat... Not to start a holy war between the two but a lot a review sites concede that the nikon bests the 5d3 from ISO 50-800... It also has a pop up flash, clean HDMI out, more mega pixels. Everything else from ISO 800 onwards, to AF, HDR, video (canon pounds the crap out of the D800 here), battery, battery life, ergonomics, handling, custom settings, on and on and on... If i was a landscape or MF shooter, then I may be tempted, and only tempted, in the D800, but in the end, it's not enough of a IQ edge below 800 to get worried about. But for me, how I shoot, and what my clients needs and wants are, it is what it is...

 

[awinphoto]

Ohh and a lot of review sites a saying the nikon d800 is better so I just did not consider dpreviews opinion.

Plus a lot of review sites, from digital rev to learning dslr videos, to many other youtube videos comparing the two, it seems that a good chunk of them give their nod to canon in the end... Most also say the differences are so minor in the end it isn't worth while for either camp to jump sides, of course they all have to say that, but it is what it is...

 

[Viggo]

I will never buy a nikon as long as they let a blind drunk, deaf, dumb and even more blind man control how the buttons are placed and how the menus are set up and the general operation of the camera.

Here's a scenario for you that think they're equal in noise. When you increase pixels you also need to shorten your shutter speed to not show motion blur. I tried the D800 and I had to have at least 1/2500s to freeze a bike messenger I tried outside the shop where I work, that means going to 3200 iso whereas with the 5d3 I had iso 1250 and around 1/1000s, no motion blur on either, but I was over a full stop higher in iso , making the image, of course, more noisy and less DR (that some of you are EXTREMELY conserned about).

And to give up on the wonderful wonderful Canon primes I own is not an option at all. In fact, the 5d3 is soo good I can't blame anything but me if the images suck now...

 

[well_dunno]

Had a good laugh reading the comments at DPR on D800 review... anyways...

I was not going to get the mark III, neither the D800 so the review has had no effect. I think we will be seeing a very active market within the coming 12-24 months with more pressure on Canon (yep, that probably means 24-48 months when talking of Canon). I am not a pro, neither in need of an urgent update so I am planning to wait and see how things develop...

Cheers!

 

[Otter]

The D800 is a better camera. I'm a Canon guy and I always have been. I'm not going to switch because Nikon wins one round. I am also not interested in 36 MP's. But based on most of the reviews that I have read and watched when the two cameras are put head to head, whether it's low ISO performance, Dynamic Range ect, it seems the D800 ends up on top.
However that does not mean the MKIII is not a great camera and it does do a lot of things great. I am going to pick one up when I get the money and it doesn't bother me that the D800 is rated higher. Do I wish the MKIII had a higher rating when I'm spending $500 more on the MKIII over the D800. Most definitely but it won't affect me purchasing the MKIII.

The things you mention aren't always the most important factors in a camera. Why not use a IQ180 if you want the best? Answer that and you'll see why parts of your post are downright stupid.

I would say in a lot of cases, people DO care about dynamic range and low light performance(Just look around the forums). Is that the part that is stupid? Is it the fact that most head to head comparisons between the two cameras, the D800 comes out with a better score. Is that part stupid?
Can you refrain from being a jackass and actually say something more meaningful then a general sentence that offers zero insite and perhaps elaborate on the stupidity of my post?
Most reviewers and people that review cameras for a living do give the D800 a better OVERALL score. That was my point...stupid...