Alleged 30 MP 5DIV - 6D II 24 MP?
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pedro said:
Very likely, but it could also be the 28mp that was talked about. Unless this 28 figure was for the 5D4 that turns out to be 30.
Like the previous generation, I don't expect much difference in sensor between the two. The 6D2 will be weakened by having 5 or 5.5 fps, a weaker AF system, and 1 card slot to act as a deterrent for pro use. Nikon is generous enough to offer dual SD in the D750, 51pt AF and more. Let's see what Canon offers in the 6D2.
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When the 5D III was released there was a backlog of 5D II's.
Canon sold the 5D II's for some time then the 6D replaced the 5D II. It was really more of a revamped upgraded 5D II with similar AF.
All the 6D fans should hope for something similar, with many of the 5D III features being bumped down into the 6D. Hope that the AF system is one of those features.
Canon sold the 5D II's for some time then the 6D replaced the 5D II. It was really more of a revamped upgraded 5D II with similar AF.
All the 6D fans should hope for something similar, with many of the 5D III features being bumped down into the 6D. Hope that the AF system is one of those features.
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pedro said:
Perhaps 24 MPix with DPAF? Should be possible to produce if a 5Ds has 50 MPix. So it's inline with a reduced PD AF with dedicated AF sensor: Perhaps 19 AF fields for moderate action and the DPAF for free compositions where the subject is sometimes near the border.
If the 5D iv hasn't DPAF and the 6D ii has it: The 6D would be more interesting for my needs. And if I look at my lenses which have a per pixel sharpness on the 5D classic I see a good chance that they profit from 24 MPix a lot. Higher resolutions wouldn't increase the gain to much.
Interesting times ... at least for those who are satisfied with Canon equipment in general.
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I have seen no reliable rumors about a 6D II, so whatever it will be is just guessing. Obviously, Canon has the design goals and is working to meet them, but they keep secrets well, and may have alternate designs for various sensors, its too early to tell.
Canons policy of tweaking the design in every area of the camera means a evolutionary design for a new model. It it has DPAF, that will be a big change. I expect that to happen. The number of MP whether its 20 or 24 is insignificant.
Canons policy of tweaking the design in every area of the camera means a evolutionary design for a new model. It it has DPAF, that will be a big change. I expect that to happen. The number of MP whether its 20 or 24 is insignificant.
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As a travel camera the 6D has been an ideal tool and the Wi-Fi & GPS really made it the case. The low light ability of the camera is often overlooked it is definitely better than the 5D MKIII in that respect. The elephant in to room for many has been the 11 point AF system and this stops the camera from being more of an all-round choice particularly for those stepping up from APS-C but not requiring the full spec of a 5D MKIII. If they add a similar AF system to the 80D and improve the metering system they would be big gains over the present camera. If its 24MP that completely fine and given improvements in processing since the 6D its low light performance could be enhanced. I don't see single slot as being the issue many make it Ive used this camera for 3.5 years and never had an issue and with 64GB card have never filled it up (I travel with spares). The other advantage has been its lighter weight & slightly smaller profile which I hope they retain.
So Canon if you address the points Ive highlighted I will definitely be an early adopter.
So Canon if you address the points Ive highlighted I will definitely be an early adopter.
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If they give it 19 AF points I will pass. Makes more sense to go with a 45 point AF system like the 80D and the same type of metering system 7560-pixel RGB+IR metering sensormb66energy said:
metering with the area divided into 63 segments (even the 750/760D has this plus 19 point AF)
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24MP for the 6D2 now makes the most sense of any figure, provided the 30MP rumors about the 5D4 are correct.
Canon has a pretty well established history of finding homes for the same MP count in both Crop and FF. That 18MP sensor was on everything for quite a while.
Before the rumors, I was pretty convinced the new 24MP sensor we got with the T6 and 80D would find a FF home in the 5D4 (honestly, I would have preferred this over the 30MP, but that's another thread).
That means it's going to almost certainly find it's home someplace in the FF lineup and that now seems to be the 6D2, because frankly there isn't any other option left.
It's a perfect resolution for this body, and they will sell the mess out of this camera if they also upgrade the AF system to something closer to the 45 point range the 80D has.
That said, they opt to go lower on the AF points to keep its distance from the 5D4, as I suspect a lot of pros would rather the lower MP count provided it had ample AF. Canon may try to choke it back to 21-25, which would keep more wedding shooters looking at the 5D4 body instead.
Canon has a pretty well established history of finding homes for the same MP count in both Crop and FF. That 18MP sensor was on everything for quite a while.
Before the rumors, I was pretty convinced the new 24MP sensor we got with the T6 and 80D would find a FF home in the 5D4 (honestly, I would have preferred this over the 30MP, but that's another thread).
That means it's going to almost certainly find it's home someplace in the FF lineup and that now seems to be the 6D2, because frankly there isn't any other option left.
It's a perfect resolution for this body, and they will sell the mess out of this camera if they also upgrade the AF system to something closer to the 45 point range the 80D has.
That said, they opt to go lower on the AF points to keep its distance from the 5D4, as I suspect a lot of pros would rather the lower MP count provided it had ample AF. Canon may try to choke it back to 21-25, which would keep more wedding shooters looking at the 5D4 body instead.
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I think it has to be 45 AF points. If the 5D MKIV retains 61 AF points and it has either the 150,000 RGB+IR metering system in the 5DS or the 200,000 RGB-IR system in the 1D X MKII its still far more superior. The 6D MKII should really be the full-frame version of the 80D.PureClassA said:
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It really should be the FF of the 80D, yes. But I wouldnt be surprised if the AF system is still a bit lighter. Anything is better than the paltry 11 points there now LOL
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The Nikon D600/D610 dating back to 2012 has 39-point AF system, with the central 9 points cross-type. The Nikon D750 51 focus points (including 15 cross-type sensors; f/8 supported by 11 sensors) dating from 2014.
So 19 AF points in the 6D MKII would certainly not cut it, period.
So 19 AF points in the 6D MKII would certainly not cut it, period.
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