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Thanks, Tabor.

On my monitor, your head is partially covered as if it's too big to fit the space.

Also, there is no copyright notice at all on your pages. It says only, "Photo Sharing by SmugMug."



Tabor Warren Photography said:
Distant Star... and what the heck, everyone else, here's my new page, I still need to upload about seven-ish galleries, but the layout will remain the same.

http://photosbytabor.smugmug.com/

Cheers,
-Tabor
 
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dstppy said:
What are you uploading from? Any "stuck" photos?

Up until now, I've uploaded directly from Lightroom. I've had no real issues with the uploads. The present galleries were already on the legacy Smugmug, so I've yet to upload anything to the new version.
 
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Thanks to the folks who have gone public with their new layouts. I appreciate it.

My first impression is that Smug has some cleanup work to do. I see a lot of sloppy stuff in the layouts -- head that don't fit, icons that bleed over into images and such.

And the wild inconsistency in the Copyright Notices has me concerned. I sent this email to the Copyright folks:

Looking at new layouts other SmugMug customers are using, I do not see consistency in Copyright notices. Some have no notices on pages ("Photo Sharing by SmugMug" and nothing else), others "Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc."

On my current (not-converted) pages, it says "Portions Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc."

The terms of service I've tried to read don't make it clear to me that I retain copyright of my images, although the notice on my current page seems to bow to that idea.

Has there been a change in the terms? Does such a change become effective with conversion to the new layouts?


I'll post any response I get here!

Thanks again.
 
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JPAZ said:
dstppy said:
What are you uploading from? Any "stuck" photos?

Up until now, I've uploaded directly from Lightroom. I've had no real issues with the uploads. The present galleries were already on the legacy Smugmug, so I've yet to upload anything to the new version.

Hrm. All I did was sign up for a trial and upload via Lightroom. (legacy) Are you using a paid or trial account?
 
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distant.star said:
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Thanks to the folks who have gone public with their new layouts. I appreciate it.

My first impression is that Smug has some cleanup work to do. I see a lot of sloppy stuff in the layouts -- head that don't fit, icons that bleed over into images and such.

And the wild inconsistency in the Copyright Notices has me concerned. I sent this email to the Copyright folks:

Looking at new layouts other SmugMug customers are using, I do not see consistency in Copyright notices. Some have no notices on pages ("Photo Sharing by SmugMug" and nothing else), others "Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc."

On my current (not-converted) pages, it says "Portions Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc."

The terms of service I've tried to read don't make it clear to me that I retain copyright of my images, although the notice on my current page seems to bow to that idea.

Has there been a change in the terms? Does such a change become effective with conversion to the new layouts?


I'll post any response I get here!

Thanks again.

All that is customized, and most is carried over from what you had before.

For example, the thumbnails can be cropped(heads cut off) or they can show the actual shape of the image with no cropping. Copyright notices can also be set.

As to copyright:
http://help.smugmug.com/customer/portal/articles/98098

http://help.smugmug.com/customer/portal/articles/1230107-new-how-can-i-protect-my-images
 
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scottkinfw said:
A bit off topic perhaps, but if you were compelled to jump ship at this point, which service would you choose? I am considering a service now and don't know which one or even how to choose. I don't know what a reasonable price to pay, or what features to look for- thoughts?

Would you stay with Smugmug and why?

Thank you.

sek

I'm going to need somewhere to save/display my photos and videos soon too..and am interested in hearing the pros/cons of the places out there currently.

I know flickr has fallen out of fashion to a great extent...

C
 
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I haven't rolled yet, need to spend some time playing with it. http://www.soundersfcfan.com

There are 2 big issues for me:
- Image size (max 50mb) and type (jpeg)
- Dualing identities (lots of historical data under one profile, but not stuff I want to carry forward into new brand)

Next week I start shooting 50mp at 16bit, so I'm looking at quickly needing solutions. I'm already needing to chase down a local print shop.
 
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Halfrack said:
I haven't rolled yet, need to spend some time playing with it. http://www.soundersfcfan.com

There are 2 big issues for me:
- Image size (max 50mb) and type (jpeg)
- Dualing identities (lots of historical data under one profile, but not stuff I want to carry forward into new brand)

Next week I start shooting 50mp at 16bit, so I'm looking at quickly needing solutions. I'm already needing to chase down a local print shop.

Are you uploading 16 bit TIF files?Is it for archiving? IMO Dropbox or some other service would be better for that. Smugmug is a viewing platform more than a storage service. Also uploading thumping great files is very time consuming.
As for printing, the usual workflow is to convert to an 8bit print file and send it to the print provider of choice. Smugmug's print partners are great but if you need local they will still want an 8bit JPG.
 
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Normalnorm said:
Are you uploading 16 bit TIF files?Is it for archiving? IMO Dropbox or some other service would be better for that. Smugmug is a viewing platform more than a storage service. Also uploading thumping great files is very time consuming.
As for printing, the usual workflow is to convert to an 8bit print file and send it to the print provider of choice. Smugmug's print partners are great but if you need local they will still want an 8bit JPG.

Nope, while I could upload 16bit TIFF, the file size is too big. It's not for archiving, but for ordering. The way I am trying to position the images is strictly at higher quality bigger prints, so it doesn't match with what I want to present as a final product. I think I'll be limited to working the orders offline.
 
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You guys all rock! I had a heck of a week...we had ALOT of migrations, and a ton of signups, so the support to cover was alot. It is finally slowing down, so I can come back and chat with you all! I saw a couple posts with new sites. AWESOME! It's 4am here, and i need a couple hours of shuteye, but I will return tomorrow to answer all your questions and check out your new Smugmug sites. Thanks so much!
 
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mbonocore said:
You guys all rock! I had a heck of a week...we had ALOT of migrations, and a ton of signups, so the support to cover was alot. It is finally slowing down, so I can come back and chat with you all! I saw a couple posts with new sites. AWESOME! It's 4am here, and i need a couple hours of shuteye, but I will return tomorrow to answer all your questions and check out your new Smugmug sites. Thanks so much!

I shoot a lot of motocross racing during the season and when at the track yesterday, many of the people who regularly visit my site made a point of telling me how much they liked the new look.

As for me, I love the look as well and am delighted with how much and how easily I can customize and change the site.

Two thumbs up. In my opinion, and the opinion of several of my friends who use SmugMug, you guys have hit a home run with this change.

http://harveyg.smugmug.com/

:D
 
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Okay, I'm back on this now. Have been distracted a few days by a death in the family.

I got this response from the SmugMug agent regarding my Copyright notice inquiry:

Hi Bill,

Thanks for contacting SmugMug.

Check out section '13. User Content' under 'A. GENERAL TERMS' in our Terms of Service [ http://www.smugmug.com/aboutus/terms/ ]
Starting with this line, "You retain the copyright in any User Content you post on the Site".


Rich Wilson
Designated Agent | SmugMug


This makes it probably clear that copyright is retained with the original owner, but it also seems to say that Smug is granted an exclusive right to use the image any way they like. If you read the section, almost any image uploaded can be interpreted as violating their rules. But that's another issue.

Spokane, I looked at the sections you suggested. The FAQ is answered again saying copyright is retained with the producer. And while all the issues of protecting images from poaching are nice (and I've always done those things, except watermark), the original question stands. Why is there an inconsistency in the Copyright notice?

On my site current site, there is what I believe to be an appropriate Copyright notice:

Portions Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc.

On other user pages I've viewed, I see this:

Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc.

On some other user pages there is no copyright notice whatsoever.

My understanding is that notice of copyright is necessary when an image is displayed. Now, it's been 30 years since I did my graduate "Communication Law" course, but I don't think that has changed.

So, for the Smugmug guy doing drivebys here, what's going on with copyright notice? My question has not been answered.

Sorry to be a pedant about this, but I think it's important.
 
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distant.star said:
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Okay, I'm back on this now. Have been distracted a few days by a death in the family.

I got this response from the SmugMug agent regarding my Copyright notice inquiry:

Hi Bill,

Thanks for contacting SmugMug.

Check out section '13. User Content' under 'A. GENERAL TERMS' in our Terms of Service [ http://www.smugmug.com/aboutus/terms/ ]
Starting with this line, "You retain the copyright in any User Content you post on the Site".


Rich Wilson
Designated Agent | SmugMug


This makes it probably clear that copyright is retained with the original owner, but it also seems to say that Smug is granted an exclusive right to use the image any way they like. If you read the section, almost any image uploaded can be interpreted as violating their rules. But that's another issue.

Spokane, I looked at the sections you suggested. The FAQ is answered again saying copyright is retained with the producer. And while all the issues of protecting images from poaching are nice (and I've always done those things, except watermark), the original question stands. Why is there an inconsistency in the Copyright notice?

On my site current site, there is what I believe to be an appropriate Copyright notice:

Portions Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc.

On other user pages I've viewed, I see this:

Copyright 2013 SmugMug, Inc.

On some other user pages there is no copyright notice whatsoever.

My understanding is that notice of copyright is necessary when an image is displayed. Now, it's been 30 years since I did my graduate "Communication Law" course, but I don't think that has changed.

So, for the Smugmug guy doing drivebys here, what's going on with copyright notice? My question has not been answered.

Sorry to be a pedant about this, but I think it's important.

Honestly, not sure. This is out of my realm. They just pay me be a social butterfly :) J/K

I will look into this from the office tomorrow! I will also get to all these questions. Thanks all!
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
mbonocore said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
I don't have a concern, I received the e-mail as well. Its time for a update to Smugmug, and I expect it to be a positive one.

Most likely we will see video support, that's a big area they are missing out on, more and more photographers are producing videos. Even though I don't produce many videos, It would be nice to have the feature, and to be able to embed links to the few clips I do make.

Thanks! I think you will be very happy with the update.

Can you tell me a little more about your needs for video? We do currently support video uploads, and have for years. Maybe I can help get you started using video to your needs?

I seldom do video, but I'd like to be able to embed a occasional clip in Canon rumors. I was aware that I could upload videos, I was thinking of something closer to Vimeo.

I'll do a little testing later.

A Vimeo Content Block is on the way :) This will allow you to embed your Vimeo videos anywhere on your SmugMug site.
 
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