Another 50mp FF DSLR Mention [CR2]

[JoeDavid]

If they do release another mirrorless M body, we need to get out the "torches and pitchforks" and storm the castle if they don't use a Dual-Pixel sensor. That tech would actually make an M attractive.

 

[racebit]

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is. 5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.

Silly is thinking 5D4 will be 2015.
The 50MP is just a scaled dual pixel 7D2 sensor.
So 2015 is 1D2 and 50MP.
5D4 is 2016 if all goes well, but it may slip to 2017.
Canon took 5 years to replace the 7D, when it was completely obsolete, even the 70D was better.
5D3 is still the king, so I don't see it being replaced any time soon.

 

[bartoloman]

Still waiting, still hoping, but not for long. 2015 will be my final year, I've been waiting since 2008 for a decent replacement. While Sony is evolving at a steady pace, Canon isn't. A pity !

 

[slclick]

PEOPLE!
It's far too early for a 5DMk4, Canon is not Nikon.

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is. 5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.

I guess time has just been flying by as I have enjoyed my Mk3. Plus I don't get body gas only glass gas so they can put out a Mk4 with all the bells and whistles you guys complain you can't live without, haha and I'll spend my money elsewhere.

 

[Diko]

PEOPLE!
It's far too early for a 5DMk4, Canon is not Nikon.

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is. 5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.

My my my! Is time passing by so fast?!?


BTW did anyone saw that coming?

Huge Sony sensor advance heralds amazing video features – 6K, and 1080p at up to 16,000fps

 

[rrcphoto]

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is. 5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.

Silly is thinking 5D4 will be 2015.
The 50MP is just a scaled dual pixel 7D2 sensor.
So 2015 is 1D2 and 50MP.
5D4 is 2016 if all goes well, but it may slip to 2017.
Canon took 5 years to replace the 7D, when it was completely obsolete, even the 70D was better.
5D3 is still the king, so I don't see it being replaced any time soon.

sorry the 7DII has what do with this? right. nothing?

canon has replaced each 5D Model on around a 3 year cycle.

 

[rrcphoto]

Still waiting, still hoping, but not for long. 2015 will be my final year, I've been waiting since 2008 for a decent replacement. While Sony is evolving at a steady pace, Canon isn't. A pity !

lol @ a decent replacement.

 

[racebit]

you know, a quick google would have told you how silly your post is. 5D was replaced in 3 years, 5dII in 3.5 years...

sept 2015 (next year) would be .. what? 3.5 years.

Silly is thinking 5D4 will be 2015.
The 50MP is just a scaled dual pixel 7D2 sensor.
So 2015 is 1D2 and 50MP.
5D4 is 2016 if all goes well, but it may slip to 2017.
Canon took 5 years to replace the 7D, when it was completely obsolete, even the 70D was better.
5D3 is still the king, so I don't see it being replaced any time soon.

sorry the 7DII has what do with this? right. nothing?

canon has replaced each 5D Model on around a 3 year cycle.

7D2 is a prosumer camera, like the 5D3 and tells us Canon release cycles are increasing, both for economical and technological reasons.
But forget the 7D and revise your math on the 5D. if the 5D2 was 3 years and 5D4 was 3.5 years, the 5D4 will be?
Exactly: 4 years (rounded down from 4.1). So that would be March 2016. But we will not be so lucky.

 

[drjlo]

If they do release another mirrorless M body, we need to get out the "torches and pitchforks" and storm the castle if they don't use a Dual-Pixel sensor. That tech would actually make an M attractive.

Of all these rumored cameras, the one I would actually have most use for is the M. I bought the original M and had fun with it, but I gave it away as its IQ was not high enough. I just hope its IQ at least matches the last generation from other companies,e.g. Sony A6000.

 

[RGF]

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it's possible - the 7DII sensor scaled up would be 51.2Mp - close enough to 50Mp to call it spades.

Will the new camera have a Bayer sensor or something more akin to the Foveon multilayer sensor? If the later, is that 50 actual MP or equivalent (Perhaps 25 actual MP but claim twice the resolution)?

 

[Loswr]

I am giving it until the end of the first quarter next year to see if there is another sensor to compete with the Nikon d810 and if not, I am selling all my Canon gear. I love landscape and I am disappointed in the lack of dynamic range. I test drove the Nikon d750 last weekend and even at 24 mp, I was amazed with the dynamic range and focus ability compared to the 5d mk3. I want that body for portrait and sport and the 810 for landscape if Canon doesn't step up and grow a set.

Hello and goodbye.

 

[Maui5150]

Still waiting, still hoping, but not for long. 2015 will be my final year, I've been waiting since 2008 for a decent replacement. While Sony is evolving at a steady pace, Canon isn't. A pity !

Something tells me if you really have been waiting since 2008, you would have found this site and had at least 5 or 6 posts by now instead of three... )

Anyone on the fence or pining for 6 years would be far more vocal

 

[Maui5150]

7D2 is a prosumer camera, like the 5D3 and tells us Canon release cycles are increasing, both for economical and technological reasons.
But forget the 7D and revise your math on the 5D. if the 5D2 was 3 years and 5D4 was 3.5 years, the 5D4 will be?
Exactly: 4 years (rounded down from 4.1). So that would be March 2016. But we will not be so lucky.

You have fallacy in your logic to believe on two data points that a release cycle is linear.

I highly doubt the 5DMKIV will be released 4.1 years after the 5DMKIII and the D5V 4.9 years after that.

If anything, seems to me that the 5D MK III might have been a tad late.

More importantly, Canon will likely release its upgrades when it feels there is a demand as well as have a product they think meets that demand

 

[slclick]

7D2 is a prosumer camera, like the 5D3 and tells us Canon release cycles are increasing, both for economical and technological reasons.
But forget the 7D and revise your math on the 5D. if the 5D2 was 3 years and 5D4 was 3.5 years, the 5D4 will be?
Exactly: 4 years (rounded down from 4.1). So that would be March 2016. But we will not be so lucky.

You have fallacy in your logic to believe on two data points that a release cycle is linear.

I highly doubt the 5DMKIV will be released 4.1 years after the 5DMKIII and the D5V 4.9 years after that.

If anything, seems to me that the 5D MK III might have been a tad late.

More importantly, Canon will likely release its upgrades when it feels there is a demand as well as have a product they think meets that demand

I agree with that statement. What happens when the date has elapsed? Does the next round of whining begin? Are their calendars marked?
Furthermore when multiple facilities suffer physical and radiation damage it is a given that production cycles are effected.

 

[Perio]

7D2 is a prosumer camera, like the 5D3 and tells us Canon release cycles are increasing, both for economical and technological reasons.
But forget the 7D and revise your math on the 5D. if the 5D2 was 3 years and 5D4 was 3.5 years, the 5D4 will be?
Exactly: 4 years (rounded down from 4.1). So that would be March 2016. But we will not be so lucky.

You have fallacy in your logic to believe on two data points that a release cycle is linear.

I highly doubt the 5DMKIV will be released 4.1 years after the 5DMKIII and the D5V 4.9 years after that.

If anything, seems to me that the 5D MK III might have been a tad late.

More importantly, Canon will likely release its upgrades when it feels there is a demand as well as have a product they think meets that demand

I remember back in 2011 people couldn't wait to see 5diii, as 5dii seemed to be outdated. I don't think that's the case with 5diii. I think 5diii is still very very capable camera and not that many people feel it needs to be upgraded. Same story with 1dx.

 

[Marsu42]

More importantly, Canon will likely release its upgrades when it feels there is a demand as well as have a product they think meets that demand

That's not the only aspect. Outside the Rebel disposable cameras Canon protects their customer's investment by not obsoleting it by random market force. Take that, Nikon d610 after d600.

The reason why I bought my 6d a year ago is that I knew they wouldn't release an updated 6d2 soon. If it wasn't for this trust, the money would still be in my pocket and not with Canon's shareholders.

I am giving it until the end of the first quarter next year to see if there is another sensor to compete with the Nikon d810 and if not, I am selling all my Canon gear. I love landscape and I am disappointed in the lack of dynamic range.

You're blatantly ignoring the considered opinion of a lot of Canon experts: If you cannot make do with what Canon currently offers, there's something wrong with you and/or your photography.

 

[Arctic Photo]

I am giving it until the end of the first quarter next year to see if there is another sensor to compete with the Nikon d810 and if not, I am selling all my Canon gear. I love landscape and I am disappointed in the lack of dynamic range. I test drove the Nikon d750 last weekend and even at 24 mp, I was amazed with the dynamic range and focus ability compared to the 5d mk3. I want that body for portrait and sport and the 810 for landscape if Canon doesn't step up and grow a set.

Hello and goodbye.

That was funny

 

[slclick]

You're blatantly ignoring the considered opinion of a lot of Canon experts: If you cannot make do with what Canon currently offers, there's something wrong with you and/or your photography.


Well said Marsu

 

[Loswr]

That may be, but people that own Canon aren't going to wait another 2 years for a 5D Mark III replacement. Instead, next year they'll be buying Sony's latest thing and selling off Canon.

YAPODFC. Yawn.

If the 7D Mark II's sensor is the best demonstration of where Canon's sensor technology is at then I'm not going to wait for a full frame version of that sensor because Canon haven't fixed the read noise problem at low ISO.

Wow, that sucks for all those people using Canon sensors and shooting at low ISO. How do they ever manage to take a good picture, get images accepted by clients or published in magazines, win prestigious awards, or anything like that?

 

[rrcphoto]

7D2 is a prosumer camera, like the 5D3 and tells us Canon release cycles are increasing, both for economical and technological reasons.

The 7DII uses significantly more advanced processes than canon's prior generation of sensor. odds are they won't take nearly as long to produce other variations of it.

we also don't know what caused this to be late - you're making some pretty grandiose assumptions

But forget the 7D and revise your math on the 5D. if the 5D2 was 3 years and 5D4 was 3.5 years, the 5D4 will be?
Exactly: 4 years (rounded down from 4.1). So that would be March 2016. But we will not be so lucky.

not really - and market conditions - the D750 / D810 are selling more than canon's full frames in north America, there's implied pressure to update the 5D and also the 6D camera bodies.

they are both due - I guess we'll find out next year who's right. there's been also a lot of murmuring happening - and that usually doesn't happen if they are two + years out.