Another announcement: Nikon D500!

[3kramd5]

Further, Nikon lacks live view focusing, and does not feature focus peaking. Buying the D500 for 4K filming doesn't seem like a good idea.

Does anyone make focus peaking which is useful? With my A7R II I find it laughably unreliable since it's just checking for high-contrast areas. I would routinely see it highlight areas which were well out of focus (before I turned the feature off).

 

[xps]

...

I do not understand, why all journalists are so keen on using the D500/D5 in the million rage, as the product specialists at the CES do not underline this this high ISO sector. My grandson wrote to me, that they say, that these bodies make excellent shots in the range up to 10k and good shots up to 51k.
...

Fully accepted, although this must be confirmed by others.

But was it a necessary marketing movement to enable 1.6m?
Wouldn't it have been enough to go up to 51k or any other really usable (!!!) range?

Mr. Maximilian, its like in the car business. Nearly everyone (except the US ) looks at the maximum speed, but just a few buyers drive the car as fast as it goes. I did not buy my Q7, because it accellerates in 6 sec to 100km/h or because I can drive more than 210km/h. I bought it, because I can drive everywhere and it is very comfortable.

Yeah! People want to be cheated and don't want to think for themselves. *sigh*
Edit: And I thought it was about fuel consumption and nitrous gases

Personal question: What does "the dark side - i´ve been there" stand for?

It's kind of a joke.
When I joined the forum I quite often read that Nikon was "the dark side".
I was using Nikon in the 90ies although my father and brothers were using Canon.
So I've been there before

If you leave the joke aside you could also read it as
"I've used Nikon, I know they make also good stuff, I am no fanboy and I am open minded for arguments."
But I don't like missionaries or fanatics that try to brain wash you with their point of view.

Edit: And I like "Star Wars" (again, no fanboy)

AAAH, I see ;D Die macht sei mit Dir!

That point is true. Most of these decisions are results of an "Bauchgefühl". So, I am thinking of buying a Sony 7Rii with two Batis lenses. I tried them. The user friendliness is sometimes lacking, but its IQ is superb. So, why not? 7DII, 5DIV with my teleprimes and the 7RII for landscape, as (IMO) Canon lacks here. I like my 6D, but as I "smellt blood", the high resolution cripples in my fingers...

 

[ahsanford]

The good thing on this release is, that rumors of successors of other brands appear. Sony, where an successor of the A99 seems to be evident (better for sports with greater AF area and more accurate and faster AF and the new Bionz-generation inside). And Nikon, who will update the D810. Rumors of course.
Its a pity, that there are no plausible rumors of the 5DIV. Someone over there rumored, Canon will/has adjust(ed) its models on the features of the other brands. Let us see, if the features of the competitors will bring a "plus" for us Canonians

I'm not going anywhere -- my investment is with Canon and I'm very happy with what I have.

But I see a VERY similar thread starting when the Nikon D820 (or D900?) drops with that Sony 42 MP BSI sensor in it. People generally only take the sensor (and possibly the adaptability of old lenses) seriously in the A7R II -- few think of the A7 platform as a ready-for-prime-time photography solution.

But I think everyone respects Nikon's ability to generate a solidly thought through SLR. So when that Sony 42 MP sensor drops in a D820/D900, it will make some serious waves. And I do not see Nikon offering it as a high-res specialist rig a la the 5DS rigs -- if they can squeeze 6-7 fps out of it, they could market it as an all-battlefield product that they will sell against the 5D4 and the 5DS rigs.

- A

 

[xps]

Dpreview wrote the first hand-on:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4531466610/top-5-hands-on-with-nikon-d500

Maybe I am a little bit sensitive, but does Dpreview not like Canon as much as other brands? (rumored, the Dpreview review will be ready soon after the D500 is available)

And there is a new Canonrumors thread: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=28767.0
(from user pixelsouldier)

As my family member wrote to me: The IQ at high Iso is excellent, far better than the 7DII. I hope he is wrong

 

[scyrene]

...
Once again I think you argue for the sake of arguing.

A significant crop on a crop camera is a problem if you want wide angle. That isn't a real problem with APS-H. The crop for getting 1920x1080 does not come with the expense of sacrificing wide angle.

I argue for the sake of arguing?

Cripes.

One second crop is bad for wide angle and the next it isn't. Make up your mind.

Or are you just trying to change the rules of the comparison as you go along so that Canon always wins and Nikon always loses?

Cropping the top and bottom is the same as cropping all round, is that what you're saying? And isn't all the 4K footage also widescreen ratio? Either way, one is reducing the apparent horizontal angle of view (making it less 'wide') and the other isn't.

 

[RickWagoner]

As my family member wrote to me: The IQ at high Iso is excellent, far better than the 7DII. I hope he is wrong

Fact is the IQ from the sensor itself the 7D2 is nothing much more better than the 70D. It is the Noise reduction software in the 7D2 that gives you the higher iso pictures looking good but anyone can do this in post and it does reduce battery life.

Fact is manufactures can boost MAX ISO numbers as high as they want to but it means nothing to IQ. When it comes to IQ the limits of high ISO it is more to do with the sensor size then anything else. Though as sensor manufacturing furthers so will higher quality ISO but this is very slow and little. high ISO on the 70D or 7d2 without the bull software is about 3200 imo at the highest. I am sure the D500 will better this a little at the least as it is a sensor created much later than the older 70D sensor.

 

[ahsanford]

Fact is manufactures can boost MAX ISO numbers as high as they want to but it means nothing to IQ. When it comes to IQ the limits of high ISO it is more to do with the sensor size then anything else. Though as sensor manufacturing furthers so will higher quality ISO but this is very slow and little. high ISO on the 70D or 7d2 without the bull software is about 3200 imo at the highest. I am sure the D500 will better this a little at the least as it is a sensor created much later than the older 70D sensor.

According this very well thought-through essay on the D500...

http://petapixel.com/2016/01/09/i-shot-with-the-nikon-d500-here-are-my-thoughts/

ISO 12,800 is outstanding and it can climb seven stops higher.

- A