Anyone else intrigued by the new Fuji X20 and X100s

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FunPhotons said:
I bought a X100. Never again. As an engineer I can usually tell the abilities of the engineers of a product. In this case they aren't good software engineers, the firmware is goofed and has odd layout. The design seems to be done by engineers and not people who focus on design. Too easy to goof the settings on the camera, too many buttons, too hard to get it to do what you want. I still haven't figured out how to turn off flash. Speaking of which, I bought a Fuji external flash which has all sorts of poor design decisions. Basically they are guys that come up with a killer idea or two (such as the viewfinder display and no Bayer pattern), and wrap a poor camera around that.

That may be an accurate description of the X100, but the X100S seems to be a better camera. Obviously, there were many details that needed improvement on the X100. The X100S seems be a more refined camera overall. I am hopeful, anyway.
 
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I have an X100. I bought it as something to carry around when I'm doing the tourist thing. I imagined it to be a camera that was heads and shoulders above a point and shoot but still really light and portable. It's all of that and it takes absolutely gorgeous pictures. I've made some landscapes with that camera that rival anything I've done with my Mark iii. Now, having said that, I'll echo what others have said about its design flaws. It is just horribly complicated and it's easy to screw up. Every time I pick that camera up I have to relearn it. To make matters worse, the manual is the worst I've ever read. It's just incomprehensible gibberish, apparently written by some Japanese high school students who were assigned the task of writing it as part of their senior English class. If you're serious about getting this camera be sure to look for an after market guide because the manual will drive you insane.

On balance, I'd say I love the pictures this camera takes but it definitely isn't for the faint of heart.
 
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You're working with cropped sensor cameras - so remember the multiplication factor. Fuji's 35mm is
the equivalent of 52.5 while the 50mm lens is actually imaging like a 75mm. There's a reason that
for 25 years or so most SLR's were sold with a 50mm "standard" lens.
 
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I see DPreview just posted tests on the Fuji X-E1

www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-e1/20

holy cow!
That's a seriously lacking-in-chroma-noise sensor system and-or some terrific in-camera processing.


I was impressed by the hi-ISO performance from my Pentax K-01 but the Fuji manages to pull even farther ahead.
Oh, how I wish some of my (cough, cough, canon, cough, nikon, choke) SLR bodies performed like that.

I'm hoping the more affordable X20 will be similarly good, considering its pixel size.
This new crop of mirrorless is hewing a very clean path in some direction.
 
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Dylan777 said:
RLPhoto said:
Impressive. Fuji always had good color since fuji-chrome & Velvia days.

Too bad I'd probably get a g15 before a X100s. :|

My wife took my RX1. I might get x100s for travel.

I could live with a fixed 35mm but, I'd probably buy a small Hot-shoe'd camera for strobist stuff. The X100S is 1299$ and with speedlites I'd be shooting HSS @ ISO 100-400. Why pay that? I'd could get the same from a G15 plus a zoom lens for traveling around.

It's nice, but It wouldn't fit into my system well. The size is good, Price is good, IQ is excellent, but just not for me.
 
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Dylan777 said:
RLPhoto said:
Impressive. Fuji always had good color since fuji-chrome & Velvia days.

Too bad I'd probably get a g15 before a X100s. :|

My wife took my RX1. I might get x100s for travel.

LOL, it's rated higher than your 5D MK3 :)
Pity it's no good for street photography or I might have jumped.
The x100s seems like a better alternative now that LR 4.4 has the sensor worked out.

ET
 
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Re: Photos from Fuji X100s

EvilTed said:
Dylan777 said:
RLPhoto said:
Impressive. Fuji always had good color since fuji-chrome & Velvia days.

Too bad I'd probably get a g15 before a X100s. :|

My wife took my RX1. I might get x100s for travel.

LOL, it's rated higher than your 5D MK3 :)
Pity it's no good for street photography or I might have jumped.
The x100s seems like a better alternative now that LR 4.4 has the sensor worked out.

ET

I doubt it will out perform RX1 in higher ISO, regardless, how good the new sensor might be :)

If the x100s is good at 3200ISO under low light, I'll get one.
 
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Impressive capture...if Fuji can get the XE1 PDAF like the X100s and bring the AF up to the level of the X100s I would consider buying into that system. The files on both cameras look impressive!
 
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Dylan777 said:
EvilTed said:
Dylan777 said:
RLPhoto said:
Impressive. Fuji always had good color since fuji-chrome & Velvia days.

Too bad I'd probably get a g15 before a X100s. :|

My wife took my RX1. I might get x100s for travel.

LOL, it's rated higher than your 5D MK3 :)
Pity it's no good for street photography or I might have jumped.
The x100s seems like a better alternative now that LR 4.4 has the sensor worked out.

ET

I doubt it will out perform RX1 in higher ISO, regardless, how good the new sensor might be :)

If the x100s is good at 3200ISO under low light, I'll get one.

But the X100s and it's AF, hybrid VF and colors~
If I didn't have the Siggy 35 on my 5DII then the X100s would very quickly find a new owner, although the split image MF mode and all the above is awesome it'd be far more useful with an interchangeable lens version, legacy lenses with digital split image focusing?? Would be awesome!
 
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RLPhoto said:
Dylan777 said:
RLPhoto said:
Impressive. Fuji always had good color since fuji-chrome & Velvia days.

Too bad I'd probably get a g15 before a X100s. :|

My wife took my RX1. I might get x100s for travel.

I could live with a fixed 35mm but, I'd probably buy a small Hot-shoe'd camera for strobist stuff. The X100S is 1299$ and with speedlites I'd be shooting HSS @ ISO 100-400. Why pay that? I'd could get the same from a G15 plus a zoom lens for traveling around.

It's nice, but It wouldn't fit into my system well. The size is good, Price is good, IQ is excellent, but just not for me.

Doesn't Fuji support 1/4000s effective sync speed because it has a leaf shutter? I'd say that this feature alone would make it ideal especially for Strobist stuff...

Japhoto
 
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kidnaper said:
I preordered the day it was available from amazon. I'm anticipating this camera more than my 5DmkIII.

I just preordered mine after reading the glowing reviews from David Hobby and others. I can't wait.

I ordered through B&H, but I'm curious to know when your order ships since you ordered much earlier. I wonder what stock will be like?
 
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