Body for Wedding Photography

[Khalai]

Most is said, but a good argument for the 5DIII is the silent mode. I don´t know if the 6D has it.

The shutter explosion from a 1DX during the church ceremony may cause a heart attack, whereas the 5DIII silent mode is really silent.

Absolutely my opinion. I love the silent mode and use it almost every time except for high speed series.
The silent mode and the more flexible AF system (compared to the 6D) makes the 5DIII THE wedding camera.

6D has a silent mode, quite damped sound from my experience. But no doubt about 5D3 AF superiority (but for my uses, the AF difference was not worth the price difference).

Thank you for this information.
I wasn't sure about this and did some skimming and pdf search through the manual, but couldn't find anything. :-[
Strage! Normally I don't miss such things. :-\

It has single shot, burst mode, silent shot, silent burst, 2sec timer and 10sec timer modes. I use the silent shot quite often, it's a noticeable difference but there seems to be just a bit more VF blackout (noticeable only if you know about it really, nothing field-relevant IMHO).

As for the 5D3 as a perfect wedding camera - couldn't agree more, it has all the bells and whistles. 6D is a more of a casual/landscape/travel body (weight, GPS, WiFi, image quality equal if not a wee bit better than 5D3). But I would not hesitate to use it for wedding either. For many years, 5D2 was the go-to-camera for weddings so why not use 6D as well.

 

[Maximilian]

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My belief is the main design impetus for the 5D3 was event and wedding photography. I think they made a perfect tool for such work. To overlook this would seem foolish to me.

Comparing the possibly slightly better center focus point of a 6D in some situations to the overall capabilities of the 5D3 is like comparing the taste of a single orange to the ownership of an entire orange grove.

agree 100%

 

[Maximilian]

It has single shot, burst mode, ...
just a bit more VF blackout (noticeable only if you know about it really, nothing field-relevant IMHO).

Yes, now I have looked it after more concentrated and found.
Of course the VF blackout must be a little bit longer. How could you achieve the noise reduction other than smothening and slowing down the motion cam of the mirror?
It's similar with the 5DIII.

 

[Ruined]

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My belief is the main design impetus for the 5D3 was event and wedding photography. I think they made a perfect tool for such work. To overlook this would seem foolish to me.

Comparing the possibly slightly better center focus point of a 6D in some situations to the overall capabilities of the 5D3 is like comparing the taste of a single orange to the ownership of an entire orange grove.

It is a shame the 'orange grove' of the 5D3 does not allow for user changeable focus screens; for ultra thin DOF composition such as bride portraits, the Eg-S in the 6D is going to be superior to the 5D3's fixed stock screen - since with the 6D you can actually see what is truly in focus unlike the 5D3.

Regarding other aspects of AF capability, 5D3 is definitely better for run and gun, but you can do a lot with the 6D if you master its AF - 6D definitely can do the job, much like wedding photographers did the job with the 5D2 and 5D.

 

[Eldar]

You can install the Eg-S focusing screen in the 5DIII. It requires a bit more work and a steady hand. See the video at Vimeo:

5D Mark III - Focusing Screen for Manual Lenses on Vimeo

 

[KKCFamilyman]

Pair of 5d3's. Af, better lcd if outdoor wedding for playback, joystick to move focus points faster, balances nicer with primes like 85 1.2 and 70-200 2.8, larger viewfinder. Just a few for me.

 

[Ruined]

You can install the Eg-S focusing screen in the 5DIII. It requires a bit more work and a steady hand. See the video at Vimeo:

Even if you were to take apart the 5D3 and install the Eg-S screen (which is not intended to be done by an end user), the metering would be off as there is no option to change the metering to accommodate the Eg-S in the 5D3 firmware (unlike the 6D, for instance, which has the option in the firmware).

 

[Eldar]

You can install the Eg-S focusing screen in the 5DIII. It requires a bit more work and a steady hand. See the video at Vimeo:

Even if you were to take apart the 5D3 and install the Eg-S screen (which is not intended to be done by an end user), the metering would be off as there is no option to change the metering to accommodate the Eg-S in the 5D3 firmware (unlike the 6D, for instance, which has the option in the firmware).

I have just bought a second hand 5DIII and ordered the Eg-S focusing screen. It does not look difficult enough to do, not to try. I know the metering will be off, but I expect a fixed manual exposure compensation should do it. If it does not work, I´ll return the standard screen and give it to my wife.
I have also ordered the Ec-S screen for my 1DX, but I don´t see that as a long term solution, due to its primary use with the long whites and extenders.

 

[Andrew Davies Photography]

Hi , As a pro wedding tog i went through the same dilemna 6d v 5d3 but in the end all of the specs pointed to the 5d3 and i still use my 5d2s aswell.

Biggest points of 5D3 for me ( not sure on 6D ) but v 5D2

Silent shutter ( is not silent but very quiet )
Dual cards for instant back up - a no brainer
Locked dials so no accidental moving of modes like with the 5D2
Setting of Min Shutter Speed in AV mode
Better screen in sunlight
Better AF for moving shots if you need it

Wedding Photographer Durham Darlington Teesside Newcastle York

 

[Eldar]

Today I installed an Eg-S focusing screen in a 5DIII body. It was a very simple operation, even though the focusing screen is not a perfect match. Focusing with the Otus through the view finder, wide open, became a Lot easier. I was even surprised how well it worked also in dim light.

I have done comparisons between the two 5DIII bodies I have, the other with the standard focusing screen. With the Eg-S I got a 2/3 stop over exposure, which I compensated for. So the only consequence of using this focusing screen, as far as i can see, is that I cannot shoot manual with auto ISO, unless Canon provides the same option as they did with the 1DX.

Auto focus worked just fine.

 

[mackguyver]

Today I installed an Eg-S focusing screen in a 5DIII body. It was a very simple operation, even though the focusing screen is not a perfect match. Focusing with the Otus through the view finder, wide open, became a Lot easier. I was even surprised how well it worked also in dim light.

I have done comparisons between the two 5DIII bodies I have, the other with the standard focusing screen. With the Eg-S I got a 2/3 stop over exposure, which I compensated for. So the only consequence of using this focusing screen, as far as i can see, is that I cannot shoot manual with auto ISO, unless Canon provides the same option as they did with the 1DX.

Auto focus worked just fine.

Eldar, thanks for sharing your experiences with the screen and I'm happy that you're having a better time focusing the Otus 55 now. As for the lack of auto ISO in Manual mode, I doubt that's as big of a deal with that lens as it would be with the 200-400 1.4x or 600.

 

[Dylan777]

Today I installed an Eg-S focusing screen in a 5DIII body. It was a very simple operation, even though the focusing screen is not a perfect match. Focusing with the Otus through the view finder, wide open, became a Lot easier. I was even surprised how well it worked also in dim light.

I have done comparisons between the two 5DIII bodies I have, the other with the standard focusing screen. With the Eg-S I got a 2/3 stop over exposure, which I compensated for. So the only consequence of using this focusing screen, as far as i can see, is that I cannot shoot manual with auto ISO, unless Canon provides the same option as they did with the 1DX.

Auto focus worked just fine.

Eldar, thanks for sharing your experiences with the screen and I'm happy that you're having a better time focusing the Otus 55 now. As for the lack of auto ISO in Manual mode, I doubt that's as big of a deal with that lens as it would be with the 200-400 1.4x or 600.

So you have to select ISO in M mode with 1D X? This is one the reason I didn't like about 5D II + AF of course.

 

[Eldar]

Today I installed an Eg-S focusing screen in a 5DIII body. It was a very simple operation, even though the focusing screen is not a perfect match. Focusing with the Otus through the view finder, wide open, became a Lot easier. I was even surprised how well it worked also in dim light.

I have done comparisons between the two 5DIII bodies I have, the other with the standard focusing screen. With the Eg-S I got a 2/3 stop over exposure, which I compensated for. So the only consequence of using this focusing screen, as far as i can see, is that I cannot shoot manual with auto ISO, unless Canon provides the same option as they did with the 1DX.

Auto focus worked just fine.

Eldar, thanks for sharing your experiences with the screen and I'm happy that you're having a better time focusing the Otus 55 now. As for the lack of auto ISO in Manual mode, I doubt that's as big of a deal with that lens as it would be with the 200-400 1.4x or 600.

So you have to select ISO in M mode with 1D X? This is one the reason I didn't like about 5D II + AF of course.

No, you can do auto ISO and you can also do exposure compensation (offset) in manual mode, with the 1DX. With the 5DIII you can do auto ISO, but you cannot do exposure compensation with auto ISO.

 

[mackguyver]

So you have to select ISO in M mode with 1D X? This is one the reason I didn't like about 5D II + AF of course.

Eldar beat me to it, but here's my reply as well:

No, but in his case, he's using the unsupported screen and in the 5DIII he would have to set ISO manually in the 5DIII to add 2/3 EV. In the 1D X with the new firmware, you can set Auto ISO in Manual mode AND dial in +2/3 EV and the ISO will automatically adjust to keep the +2/3 EV, just like it would in Av of T mode. It's one of the cooler features of the new firmware and one that many of us have asked for for years. It's also one, along with the Auto ISO minimum shutter speed going above 1/250s that we all wish they would add to the 5DIII