Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?
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CustomizedMacs said:
Well we know there are a number of factors that affect the quality of a picture besides the camera, such as lenses, camera supports, lighting, post-production, and sheer technique.
It can be argued that comparable IQ can be delivered by all current Canon FF cameras under a wide range of conditions, so you can consider the Canon 5D mkiii and even the 6D if you're mostly taking pictures of static objects.
If you go into a FF camera, one thing that will need to upgrade is your lenses. Your EF-S lenses won't work on any Canon FF camera, and better lenses may be needed to deliver top IQ anyway. As you upgrade consider the EF 24-70mm mkii, a 70-200mm tele to replace the 55-250mm, and perhaps some primes regarding your needs.
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IMO it will be 4 years at the earliest before a replacement is here..and honestly there is nothing i would change about the 1dx for me it's perfect 
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If you need it, or want it and can afford it, grab it. If you always wait for the next best thing, well, you might never buy. I love mine.
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Ok, let me get this straight…..a 7k camera without a lens just for shooting 'books'? And you are bummed the crummiest lens in the lineup won't work with it?
How about meeting this issue halfway? Get a 6D and a few amazing pieces of glass. You'll have a couple grand left over for getting your boat repainted.
How about meeting this issue halfway? Get a 6D and a few amazing pieces of glass. You'll have a couple grand left over for getting your boat repainted.
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Since you are after perfection or as close to it as possible, I would advise against the 1DX in your situation. The body is just a small part of the camera budget and I take it from your reaction that cost eventually will become an object if you start purchasing the proper tools. Comparing my old Rebel T2i/T3i to my 5D3 images at low ISOs, I can't tell any difference using top glass on them.
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CustomizedMacs said:
In case you didn't know, EF-S lenses extend further into the camera when mounted to provide a narrower image circle that's closer to the sensor of an APS-C camera. This brings benefits in design and cost when using a smaller sensor. EF-S lenses can't and should never be mounted on FF cameras, as that can affect (I think actually break) the camera's mirror (a FF camera has a larger sensor and a correspondently larger mirror).
As others have mentioned, if you're interested in top IQ, then glass would be a priority regardless of camera. There are a number of benefits to going to a FF camera IQ-wise. I already said that a 6D or a 5D mkiii with the 24-70mm mkii will give you a great general purpose kit.
A solid tripod and head are priorities if I'm getting right in my head what you want to shoot. Great camera support doesn't come cheap, but it's usually a good investment.
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Want to comment, but recent post by OP seem to lend to a not so genuine thread - sorry if that is not the case.
But i'm puzzled by some one who has followed this forum and not realised that:
IQ is as much (more some would say) than body
Top End Canon bodies require top end (usually expensive) glass
Opted for a 1DX because it is 'the best' - but that is such a subjective statement. I would argue that Medium Format will take a lot of beating for IQ - and Hassalblad prices are not that much more for body and lens than the 1DX with an L lens. The MF cameras just don't do moving subjects like a 1DX - so which is 'the best'?
But i'm puzzled by some one who has followed this forum and not realised that:
IQ is as much (more some would say) than body
Top End Canon bodies require top end (usually expensive) glass
Opted for a 1DX because it is 'the best' - but that is such a subjective statement. I would argue that Medium Format will take a lot of beating for IQ - and Hassalblad prices are not that much more for body and lens than the 1DX with an L lens. The MF cameras just don't do moving subjects like a 1DX - so which is 'the best'?
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Word... a good tripod + head will cost a few thousand easy, especially with a heavier body. Then he needs to look at lighting options as well. Body is starting to look like a small factor in the scheme of things.
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CustomizedMacs said:
It's true.
But considering you will primarily be shooting books and you say you have the money for a 1DX, it would be a better idea to buy a 5DIII (half the cost of a 1DX) and use the difference to upgrade your lenses.
Then, in a year or two, you will have a better understanding of your needs and what you may or may not be lacking from that set up. At that time, the question of the rumored high MP body will be answered and we'll know more about where Canon is heading regarding studio/landscape vs. sports/pj bodies...including the 1DX replacement.
I shoot with a 1DX and I love it. But I am mainly shooting moving subjects often in dim, ever changing light. I need the speed and the high ISO capabilities. This body has given me the ability to use one body instead of two. I used to shoot with the 1DIV & 1DsIII. The 1DsIII was used mainly for performer headshots. At this point I am satisfied that the 1DX images for headshots are as good as the 1DsIII's. The slight diff in MP doesn't matter in my case (I really need to sell the 2 cams I'm no longer using), however I will likely be very interested in the high MP body.
If you purchase a 5DIII and a few good L lenses, when the next gen bodies are announced/released you will know whether it makes sense for you to upgrade.
Good luck!
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I would still give the OP the benefit of the doubt, this wouldn't be the first time that I've run into someone with a significant amount of money and unclear needs.
Hey everybody here was once a newbie, if not the joke's on me!
Hey everybody here was once a newbie, if not the joke's on me!
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For taking pictures of books?? I need to correct my former statement. How about invest in lights, a 580 exii and a 50 1.8. Maybe buy a dvd or book on photography and lighting. No need for a 1dx for that.
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How on earth did this thread get to be 4 pages long!
I think, CR should have a one Special "Fun" section for:
Suspect threads (such as this one, and quite a few others of late)
Joke threads
Other topics other than Cameras
Those three topics, and possibly a couple more, can reside in just one sub-forum.
I think, CR should have a one Special "Fun" section for:
Suspect threads (such as this one, and quite a few others of late)
Joke threads
Other topics other than Cameras
Those three topics, and possibly a couple more, can reside in just one sub-forum.
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Taking pics of static subjects in controlled settings - I'd say the body is the least significant factor in this case. Lens, lighting, support, and most important, knowledge are far more important in getting the shot. Without having those, the 1DX won't provide any magic.
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Funny thread, and confirmed: it's not April 1rst ... 
OP, buy a 6D with a 24-70 f/2.8 II. Coming from 55-250mm on whatever APS-C body, you'll be flat amazed. The rest is just skill and hard work. The pictures you see in magazines are produced by professionals taking extreme care of every detail. On the shooting set and in post-production. You want to to same ? The 1Dx won't help you a milligram. Rather, invest in books and courses.
A 1Dx requires commitment. It's a tool for the extreme. It's a 3 pounds brick. It's for the pros, the artists, the ultimate enthusiasts, those who may take days for only one picture that satisfy them. If you're not ready to invest in time and perfectionism, don't go for it, you'll be disappointed. How many 1Dx purchased by lottery winners and 300k'ers sitting at home after only 3 months ... ?
OP, buy a 6D with a 24-70 f/2.8 II. Coming from 55-250mm on whatever APS-C body, you'll be flat amazed. The rest is just skill and hard work. The pictures you see in magazines are produced by professionals taking extreme care of every detail. On the shooting set and in post-production. You want to to same ? The 1Dx won't help you a milligram. Rather, invest in books and courses.
A 1Dx requires commitment. It's a tool for the extreme. It's a 3 pounds brick. It's for the pros, the artists, the ultimate enthusiasts, those who may take days for only one picture that satisfy them. If you're not ready to invest in time and perfectionism, don't go for it, you'll be disappointed. How many 1Dx purchased by lottery winners and 300k'ers sitting at home after only 3 months ... ?
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Upgrade will be announced by late October and will ship by January. I'm also waiting.
I know many will disagree but look up the product cycles and dates of the announcement and shipments of both the 1D and 1Ds.
I know many will disagree but look up the product cycles and dates of the announcement and shipments of both the 1D and 1Ds.
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