Buy 1DX now or wait for an upgrade?

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dickgrafixstop said:
Buy now. It's technology halfway through the product cycle and people like you provide the funding for future product improvements whether you know how to use them or not. You'll help the economy, maybe get a few
decent snapshots and provide some struggling photographer a good deal when you sell it to upgrade.

Sounds like you are the poor, struggling photographer who was to buy used cameras. It goes for the rest of you who want to go on toddler's tantrum. Smart people do not ridicule. Only the ones who have inferiority complexes do it.
 
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This thread reminds me of this guy

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The wait for the 1Ds3 to be replaced was silly, even with the 1DX announces it was what, 8 months? before release.

So they combined the 1Ds and 1D cameras into one body and made it kick ass. You betcha they will be a much longer wait for the replacement than ever before. 3 years counting from now.

I don't think there is anything Canon can improve on this current model to make me switch to another body. Other than a true silent shutter.
 
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dolina said:
Upgrade will be announced by late October and will ship by January. I'm also waiting.

I know many will disagree but look up the product cycles and dates of the announcement and shipments of both the 1D and 1Ds.

No disrespect meant, but I think you'll be utterly disappointed, man!
 
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Northstar said:
I had been thinking that the OP was new to photography, but I just read through some of the "petal hood" discussion and now I'm not so sure if this isn't a joke.

Anyway...OP...forget about spending $6700 on a 1dx for shooting books, a 1dx is for sports or fast moving wildlife...let me help you upgrade your image IQ dramatically:

Buy a canon 5D3 with kit lens 24-105L .....$3500. (Comes with awesome petal hood) ;D

Invest in two good primes, 50 1.4 and 100 2.8 macro.....$1000

Invest in quality lighting......$1500 People new to photography usually don't understand the importance of light.

Invest in a quality tripod and head ......$600

Invest in Apple Aperture or Lightroom and learn to edit and enhance images.....$100

Invest some time in thoroughly reading a "basics of photography" book.

There...now you have spent your $6700 wisely. Do these six things and i guarantee you will up your image IQ dramatically..

I realize part of your reply was made in jest (rightfully so due to the nature of this thread), but none are truer than your words, Northstar! How you been? Still working the 5DM3 and the 1DX, I assume. Saw that you picked up a 300 f/2.8 already...I'm so envious. Looking to get a 300 f/2.8 II as well...sigh...
 
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wockawocka said:
I don't think there is anything Canon can improve on this current model to make me switch to another body. Other than a true silent shutter.

Totally agree with you, bro! On both sentences quoted above. If the 1DX had a true silent shutter...I'd sell my 5DM3 (at a loss if had to) in a heartbeat and pick up another 1DX. For all things these two models are similar, the silent shutter is one of those things that sets the 5DM3 apart.
 
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Re to: Upgrade will be announced by late October and will ship by January. I'm also waiting.

Very funny.

No 1Dx upgrade will be announced late October 2013.

Maybe a 7D Mark II will be announced in October 2013.
 
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Dwight said:
dolina said:
Upgrade will be announced by late October and will ship by January. I'm also waiting.

I know many will disagree but look up the product cycles and dates of the announcement and shipments of both the 1D and 1Ds.

No disrespect meant, but I think you'll be utterly disappointed, man!

I haven't figured out if this is a real thread or not. I mean, this is a rumor site, and one can say anything even without evidence, but some statements just don't even make sense. Even a cursory review of the 1 series product life cycles reveals no such extraordinary possibility, and to assert that the 1DX will be refreshed in October 2013 ignores Canon's announcement that the 1DX was the amalgamation of 1D and 1Ds bodies. Unless you count the lifespan of the 1D mark II N, you just can't construe history to expect a 1DX refresh when the body is only a year and a half old.

we will probably see a new body in 2014 (or at least more announcements), but it won't be a 1DX refresh. Its more likely to be a new body with Canon's new 180nm mfg process and first competitive attempt at an improved DR, high MP landscapes type body. Its too soon to tell, but it appears this could be a single 1-series body, a single body that is not a 1 series, or we might see more than one body introduced or announced.

On a similar note, we can't expect a refresh of the 5D3 either, in 2014 (my opinion) since it is barely a year and a half old right now and still selling like gangbusters. When it does arrive, the refresh of this body would still, it seems to me, preserve the 5D heritage, i.e. high ISO wedding/event work, and not venture into the landscape space.

Personally I expect one camera in 2014 that will be sufficiently differentiated from the 1DX and 5D3 so as to preserve these for refresh in a couple of years time -- Canon's way of forcing the market. If they do introduce a high MP body that is not a 1 series, then it will have to avoid stepping on the 5D3's toes.
 
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Now that magic lantern has supposedly hacked the 5D3 to deliver raw video that is comparable or superior to the Black Magic cinema camera at a similar price, I suspect even more 5D3's will be sold than before.

I finally got around to seeing "Iron Man 3" yesterday. The 3D is a total waste here, in my opinion. But I watched to the end of the credits on a friends' advice, since there's a mildy witty scene that pops up there. I also noticed they credited Canon EOS as one of the camera systems used...I assume they used the 1Dc, or something else?
 
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wickidwombat said:
neuroanatomist said:
dlleno said:
If they do introduce a high MP body that is not a 1 series, then it will have to avoid stepping on the 5D3's toes.

<4 fps, and the 6D's AF system. Done.

please god no! FPS i dont care but hell even the rebels get better AF than the 6D!

yea it will be interesting to see if Canon produces a 6D-"ish" big megapickle body. Assuming better sensor technology, the implication would be that such a camera would equal or outrun the 6D in every way, which means it will either kill the 6D or be priced accordingly. But with a higher price would come increased expectation for, or frustration with the low end AF, which is an argument in favor of something better. But it can't be too much better than the 6D because the 6D is already Canon's statement of separation between entry level FF and 5D3, and such a camera can't kill either of those. Is there room for a FF body "in between" 6D and 5D3 without killing either?
 
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I'm looking at the 1DX. Being only 18 months old I would expect it to sell through Christmas then just like Apple, Canon would flood the market with product refreshes. I normally wouldn't care but the new dual pix sensor could be a big deal between current 1DX and "future 1DX".

Everyone thinking 2014 for 1DX refresh or do you believe it pushes to 2015?
 
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NostraHistoria said:
Well, it is the time to finally buy the 1DX. I have enough money. However, should I wait for an upgrade? I am not an expert who reads photo forums and rumors everyday. I came here to ask you camera junkies if it is time to buy it or wait.

What is the verdict?

I'm strucggling to get my head around this comment "Im not an expert" and yet you are about to buy a 12fps top of the tier, current state of the art professional camera, which happens to be the most expensive DSLR in Canon's portfolio. I'm pretty confident that you would be better served with either a 6D, 7D or 5DIII. There are very few photographers who really need the 1Dx's benefits.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
NostraHistoria said:
Well, it is the time to finally buy the 1DX. I have enough money. However, should I wait for an upgrade? I am not an expert who reads photo forums and rumors everyday. I came here to ask you camera junkies if it is time to buy it or wait.

What is the verdict?

I'm strucggling to get my head around this comment "Im not an expert" and yet you are about to buy a 12fps top of the tier, current state of the art professional camera, which happens to be the most expensive DSLR in Canon's portfolio. I'm pretty confident that you would be better served with either a 6D, 7D or 5DIII. There are very few photographers who really need the 1Dx's benefits.

For Canon's sake just let him/her purchase a 1D-X. I don't care if anyone is some sort of genius photography artist or just a hobbyist. If you can buy the best, why bother with the rest?
 
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I am with you. Let him. It helps Canon, the Canon eco system, everyone. If every camera they sold was a 1DX just imagine how much more R&D Canon could invest to make a better next version.

I just can't see them not upgrading to the new Dual Pixel sensor a later than 2014 but I guess 2015 makes more sense as stated above.

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For Canon's sake just let him/her purchase a 1D-X. I don't care if anyone is some sort of genius photography artist or just a hobbyist. If you can buy the best, why bother with the rest?
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