Canon’s upcoming announcements recap
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Canon would not have made them if no one requested them.
Although, Canon is going to need more RF-mount cinema cameras before RED inevitably switches over to the Nikon Z mount.
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I am not concerned with lenses.
Canon is committed to releasing 7 or 8 lenses each year and has no problem releasing a bunch at the same time.
Canon has no such commitment with camera bodies.
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Where did you find that the R5 is capped to 400MB/s?
Sustained 8K30 raw write speed is 2600Mb/s (~325MB/s) but in theory, burst write speed is faster. Originally, Canon released a table approving a few CFe cards for 8K30 recording but that table was never updated.
RFshooters tested 10 CFe cards where the R5 write speed is >500MB/s
https://rfshooters.com/blog/cameras/canon-r5/memory-cards/
Generally the limitation is the SD card so the fastest buffer clearance would be having only one card. The digital picture did some testing on the buffer depth in 2020 with CFe and/or SD card. Note the bit depth difference between 20fps electronic shutter and H/H+ mechanical shutter files.
https://www.the-digital-picture.com...-R6-Buffer-Capacity-During-High-Speed-Capture
What modes (mech/Eshutter) are you using? Have you tried cRaw options which will clear the buffer even faster?
It is my understanding that the fastest shooting speeds on the Z9 are not raw images like the R5 can record.
Current faster CFe cards claim burst write speeds are >1500MB/s.
No need for CFe4 at this time unless you are internally recording 12K raw files. 1 minute recording at 2000MB/s would require a 120TB card capacity!
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Do you mean a 55mp sensor with a 3+second buffer would be 60 images (3x20fps) x 55mp*14bit = 46GB buffer storage?
Prebuffering would eat into the 3 seconds buffer as well eg 0.5s pre +2.5s post shutter button press.
Assuming that the R5ii allows 20fps @ 14 bit depth vs 12 bit for the R5.
Note that the A1 does oversampling for 8k video but doesn't offer a raw mode... mostly because the CFe type A cards can't handle the bandwidth needed.
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I'm in the same situation. I was expecting an update to my C200 years ago and I've given up hope that will happen. I got a Komodo-X while waiting and I offset that with a C70 and R5. I also recently parted ways with my C200 (probably have to change my username at some point) and all my EF glass while I could still get a decent price for it. For me, I just need something more cinematic than the C70 right now. The Red Raptor would be a dream camera, but it's too far out of my budget. With Red's recent acquisition by Nikon, the future of the RF mount is also in question...and also all rumors at this point. The C300S would be ideal but I can't wait much longer without a bone of some sort - give me a leaked image or something. Hell, I'd be happy with an image of an early proof of concept or even patent request. The Fx9/Fx6 are expecting an update later this year so it is tempting to jump ship if Canon remains quiet. Especially with the higher-end Burano that just came out. Do I want to move to Sony? Honestly, no, but at this point, everything with Canon is just rumors (for the entire division!!!) and I'm tired of waiting for something that may never come when Sony is actually delivering. Fingers and toes crossed for some good news this weekend.
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Earlier tests and what I observed myself pointed to 400-ish Mbyte/s, it’s nice that it’s slightly more, 520Mbyte/s, but that’s still way below what the cards can do.
Since Canon locks up the camera till the buffer is completely empty after pre-shooting, the faster, the better.
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A 14/1.2 would be a staggerinly huge lens in order to get any sort of decent optical performance out of it. Sigma has done well with compact lenses like the 85/1.4 DG DN and 50/1.2 DG DN but their 14/1.4 is still huge. Sony has done extremely well with the 14/1.8.
Canon has never managed to make a fast prime wider than 24mm, and many of their ultra-wide lenses on EF were not that good. It will be interesting to see how they do with ultra-wide on RF, Sony and Sigma have set the bar very, very high.
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Releasing a €4500 camera each year that is only slightly different from its predecessor sounds very much like the Sony way of doing things: firmware updates are done by purchasing the newer model, not through free-as-in-beer downloads.
That sort of consumerism and e-waste generating nonsense rubs me the wrong way, like Shein does.
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Come on, let's not get into hyberbole here. Sony uses the same 4 or 5 year release cycle as Canon and Nikon do. A1 was released in 2021 and is likely to be replaced in 2025. A9ii was released in 2019 and the A9iii was released in 2023.
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Do they? I suppose, if you cherry pick the less popular lines. There have been 15 a7-series models in the past 10 years. 5 of them have been a7R models, averaging a 2-year cycle. The others generally average a ~3 year cycle. The a7S II came out 18 months after the original.
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One other issue for Canon is price.....since the R52 will be most directly competing with the Z8, Canon won't be able to sustain a price above $4k, at least not for very long. I've seen new Z8's with US warranty as low as $3200 of late. IMO the Canon has to have a stacked sensor and improvements to its already good AF. The faster sensor readout and electronic shutter with no distortion are minimum requirements to be competitive now. On the AF front, Canon has lots to build on so I'm hoping for something faster and more accurate than the competition.
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