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So it's October now for the Canon 24-70/2.8L II.
That's not that far away. How fast did the last month go? I'd prefer they get it right.
BTW this is a great time to off-load your Canon 24-70/2.8L I. On Gumtree I sold mine for $1450 two hours after I posted the advert. It was the last of four far less than stellar copies over the years.
October? Meh! No problem. After the erratic QC of the MkI this new one just has to nail it. Take your time Canon.
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That's not that far away. How fast did the last month go? I'd prefer they get it right.
BTW this is a great time to off-load your Canon 24-70/2.8L I. On Gumtree I sold mine for $1450 two hours after I posted the advert. It was the last of four far less than stellar copies over the years.
October? Meh! No problem. After the erratic QC of the MkI this new one just has to nail it. Take your time Canon.
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pwp said:
You actually believe it's October this time? Since Canon doesn't even get their websites synced (us vs. uk), personally I believe there'll be another delay. That's because some guy lately stated that Canon did some last minute changes to the lens due to beta tester feedback - and this goes far beyond simple qc optimizations. Sadly we might never know what the issues were, but for a computer chip the round trip to do changes is at least half a year.
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If it's a couple of months delay, it's not a chip modification.Marsu42 said:
Six months would be very optimistic if they need to modify a chip. First a couple of months to fix the error and verify that nothing else has been screwed up, then 3 months in the fab, and a couple of months for verification.
Personally, from my working experience, I wouldn't count on less than 9 months TAT for a chip modification. And 9 months would be aggressive too.
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Another disappointment.
But agree, do it right Canon, and throw in some H-IS too while you are revalidating the product anyway...
But agree, do it right Canon, and throw in some H-IS too while you are revalidating the product anyway...
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pwp said:
haha awesome i should put mine up for sale ijust bought it for $800 and its the best copy of this lens ive used
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Go tired of waiting and got a Tamron... only taken some shots, but based on that...
Soft @ f2.8, sharpens at f4
Vignetting at 2.8
Nice contrast
Nice colors
No visible Onion rings so far
More later
Soft @ f2.8, sharpens at f4
Vignetting at 2.8
Nice contrast
Nice colors
No visible Onion rings so far
More later
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K-amps said:
Yes, please post your findings - there are still few reviews out there. To see the onion reviews you really have to have strong highlights in the bokeh, and the weaknesses of the Tamron are said to be slower af (takes a pause before final lock) and that it never really gets sharp even stopped down unlike the Canon mk1...
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Will post next week once I have some time.... if the f2.8 sharpness bothers me, I am returning it... no use using a 2.8 lens at 5.6 just for it to perform the way it should...
I shot a few lights in the Camera shop (their memory card) and could not see onion bokeh despite max magnification on the Cam LCD screen... so I need to to experiment some more.
I shot a few lights in the Camera shop (their memory card) and could not see onion bokeh despite max magnification on the Cam LCD screen... so I need to to experiment some more.
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K-amps said:
And while you're at it
and seeing that you have a 5d3: The Tamron seems to emulate a lens code that enables it to be in "group a" af with the new 24-70ii ... the question is if the Tamron's af is still precise, even if its sharpness is more like the Canon mk1 which is in a lower category.
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If it's a chip modification and we have a 6-9 month wait what does Canon expect people to do for this focal range? The MK1 has been discontinued and the only other choice are 3rd party.
If we have to wait 6-9 months then Canon really dropped the ball big time. Personally I've been waiting to use my tax return on this since March. I might just start looking at other options (and for me the MK1 QC issues makes it not an option).
If we have to wait 6-9 months then Canon really dropped the ball big time. Personally I've been waiting to use my tax return on this since March. I might just start looking at other options (and for me the MK1 QC issues makes it not an option).
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Sometime I wondering if Canon & Nikon deliberately "tinker" with their firmware updates to make third party lenses not to auto focus quicker or introduce some other bug to basically not make them work as well as they should. I say this because two years ago I had Tamron 18-50 f/2.8 OS that used to work brilliantly with my EOS 60D but once I updated my firmware the lens became slower at auto focusing.Dylan777 said:
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Rienzphotoz said:
From Canon's and Nikon's perspective, "work as well as they should" means "not at all" because at least Canon to my knowledge makes no effort at all to help 3rd party gear work. On the contrary - with each new body or protocol update you might be out of luck, and of course this is a major selling point for "original" gear.
But this is the first time I've head someone say Canon but regressions in their firmware deliberately - but it's known to happen, remember how Microsoft drove Novell out of the DOS business by engineering false warnings into Windows 3.1. Years later and having seen the source code courts decided against MS, but too late for Novell to recover...
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I can't authenticate my suspicion but I feel it is quite possible because a similar thing happened to my Nikon D700 with my "Bigma" 50-500 (non OS) lens I both sold now(D700 partially funded my 5D MK III).Marsu42 said:
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Never understood announcing a new product which is going to be on the market after one year
now the 24-70 II
same thing happened with 1DX
When nikon announced the new D800, you could pre order it from the next day
canon sucks on that part...
now the 24-70 II
same thing happened with 1DX
When nikon announced the new D800, you could pre order it from the next day
canon sucks on that part...
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D800 was announced much before 5D MK III but D800 is still on "Back Ordered" status i.e. still not available fpr [purchase, while Canon 5D 3 is widely available ... it has nothing to do with demand either ... B&H clearly states that "supply from Nikon is extremely limited".steliosk said:
With the exception of 24-70L II, 1DX & 200-400 lens, Canon historically has always been the faster company to get its products out for purchase ... whereas Nikon has almost always taken 12 to 18 months before its DLSR's and lenses are widely available.
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Marsu:
Returing the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 soon. The AF on my unit is crap. There is a huge disparity in MF sharpness vs. AF sharpness regardless of AFMA which I tried all the way form -20 to +20. (Got better at +10 but no better at +20)... I wonder if all Tams are like this or just my copy.
Returing the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 soon. The AF on my unit is crap. There is a huge disparity in MF sharpness vs. AF sharpness regardless of AFMA which I tried all the way form -20 to +20. (Got better at +10 but no better at +20)... I wonder if all Tams are like this or just my copy.
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