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Re: Canon 7D Mark II specs wishlist.
same here, not putting one in should be considered a crimeCTJohn said:
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Personally, I wish there won't be a 7d2 at all, but they'll scrap it and move the 70D up again for a price of 1200€ at most. They should put in the lcd sceen of the 60D, just one processor for power efficiency and magic lantern compatibility, and an updated sensor with a 2-stop improvement and be done with it. This is not likely to happen, though :-oBRNexus6 said:
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I said that at least 6 months ago.....
My wish list is:
- better ISO performance ( 1 stop will be great)
- slightly improved AF and DR
- same resolution
- two body types: 1 normal body (like today 7D) , and one with integrated battery grip ( like 1D series)
if Canon will do that i believe that they will have even more success wit the crop frame sensor camera.
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I said that at least 6 months ago.....
My wish list is:
- better ISO performance ( 1 stop will be great)
- slightly improved AF and DR
- same resolution
- two body types: 1 normal body (like today 7D) , and one with integrated battery grip ( like 1D series)
if Canon will do that i believe that they will have even more success wit the crop frame sensor camera.
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Since my 60D has the same sensor as the 7D I'd like to comment that this might be doable, but certainly not "easily". For some sharpness to remain after denoising at 1600, the exposure has to be absolutely correct and no darker parts have to be raised in postprocessing. At 3200, it's either noise, nr-blur or artificial sharpness on nr-blur and the print or view size certainly cannot be 100%.KeithR said:
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What would make my most used camera even better?
19MP - take the 5D trick of adding 1 just to make it explicitly different. I'd expect the usual generational improvements.
Full RGB metering system tied into AF system, add lots more points please. The existing points aren't fine enough for some tracking. Imagine everything being like the existing "small spot" size. Use colour info tracking would be a nice plus as I'd love to be able to tell it to ignore green targets!
Physically - change nothing. Actually, improved water sealing would help as I have had the rear joystick go funny in the rain before, and I have heard of others reporting this happening to them. I wouldn't say no to a tiltly screen but not if it compromises the rest of the build.
What would make my most used camera even better?
19MP - take the 5D trick of adding 1 just to make it explicitly different. I'd expect the usual generational improvements.
Full RGB metering system tied into AF system, add lots more points please. The existing points aren't fine enough for some tracking. Imagine everything being like the existing "small spot" size. Use colour info tracking would be a nice plus as I'd love to be able to tell it to ignore green targets!
Physically - change nothing. Actually, improved water sealing would help as I have had the rear joystick go funny in the rain before, and I have heard of others reporting this happening to them. I wouldn't say no to a tiltly screen but not if it compromises the rest of the build.
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- DIGIC 5+ ( Single or Dual)
- 8 - 12 FPS Burst w/ silent mode like in 5D3
- Dual CF slot
- New APS-C 18 MP sensor
- W/O Build-in flash
- Headphone Jack
- Audio control's while filming
- Same body layout as now w/ battery grip + joystick (Build-in grip or not)
- And upgraded AF system (61pt system)
Those kind a things I would really like see in 7D2, hopefully even some of those comes to happen. :
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Yeah almost forgot: Upgraded ISO noise reduce.
- DIGIC 5+ ( Single or Dual)
- 8 - 12 FPS Burst w/ silent mode like in 5D3
- Dual CF slot
- New APS-C 18 MP sensor
- W/O Build-in flash
- Headphone Jack
- Audio control's while filming
- Same body layout as now w/ battery grip + joystick (Build-in grip or not)
- And upgraded AF system (61pt system)
Those kind a things I would really like see in 7D2, hopefully even some of those comes to happen. :
EDIT:
Yeah almost forgot: Upgraded ISO noise reduce.
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I use it for wildlife photography (birds) and here is my wish list:
Usable ISO of 12600 (2 stops better), a lot of birds in primary forest require high iso.
A speaker jack would be sweet; I record the bird call (using Rode Videomic) and then playback to call the bird. If I could connect it to external speaker to boost the audio would make it a supper usable tool. Some bird guides use a separate equipment for recording and playback that cost a bunch. Having this recording and playback capability in the camera is very-very useful. Most birders that have a camera use a 7D with 100-400 mm.
Increased zoom in playback mode for pictures is also very usable. I use this camera to help me confirm bird ID so when I zoom-in, I would like to get a bit closer in some situations.
In camera edit (shadows and highlight adjustment) is also very desirable. In many cases it is required to raise the shadows and lower the highlights to get better confirmation of bird ID. Many times I am better able to ID the bird when I edit the photo with Photoshop, so it would be nice if I could adjust the images in the field for a better, quicker and positive ID.
Of course better definition would be supper welcome, again this would help in the bird ID process.
Keep 1.6x, it helps a lot to get 1.6x on the telephoto without having to carry a lot of weight of big lenses.
Better weather sealing.
Lower weight
Improved AF.
Increase the camera-presets (c1,c2 and c3) storage from three to four or five and keep the wheel selection. I pre-program the optimum photographic settings in theses presets and the wheel makes this selection almost instantaneous. For example my bird in flight (BIF) settings include AI Servo, Multiple Point AF, +3 Exposure compensation, 1/2000 sec speed and of course Auto ISO, and speed priority. When I see a BIF I instantly shift my camera to optimum settings (c3) and shoot the bird without any delays. It works great!! Please dont change it to some thumbwheel setting that I would have to look. The current wheel can be set to any of the three settings without any delay, and I always know where c3 is because the wheel does not turn any further. When required I can confirm the position of the wheel by turning it to c3 and then counting back to c1 or c2 without even looking at my camera and very quickly.
The switch from video-to-still is too stiff, when it gets slippery (from my hands oil) it is difficult to switch, so make the little handle bigger for more torque with less force.
Video auto focus would be very nice. I find myself focusing in still mode and then switching to video mode for crisp video. When I use LiveView mode many times I do not focus properly and do not realize until I am home watching the video. Too late, scrap that video and that is really bad because video is very important for me. The LCD cannot be used for proper video focusing due to reflecting light and size, maybe if the zoom button worked in video for focusing purposes would be great ie. 5x and 10x zoom for stills works great.
That is it. Otherwise I love my camera and hope that someday the 7D II will have all this great stuff that will make every birder buy this as a must-have tool for improving bird ID accuracy.
Here is a blog I wrote explaining some of the benefits of photography in birding:
http://10000birds.com/photography-and-birding.htm
I use it for wildlife photography (birds) and here is my wish list:
Usable ISO of 12600 (2 stops better), a lot of birds in primary forest require high iso.
A speaker jack would be sweet; I record the bird call (using Rode Videomic) and then playback to call the bird. If I could connect it to external speaker to boost the audio would make it a supper usable tool. Some bird guides use a separate equipment for recording and playback that cost a bunch. Having this recording and playback capability in the camera is very-very useful. Most birders that have a camera use a 7D with 100-400 mm.
Increased zoom in playback mode for pictures is also very usable. I use this camera to help me confirm bird ID so when I zoom-in, I would like to get a bit closer in some situations.
In camera edit (shadows and highlight adjustment) is also very desirable. In many cases it is required to raise the shadows and lower the highlights to get better confirmation of bird ID. Many times I am better able to ID the bird when I edit the photo with Photoshop, so it would be nice if I could adjust the images in the field for a better, quicker and positive ID.
Of course better definition would be supper welcome, again this would help in the bird ID process.
Keep 1.6x, it helps a lot to get 1.6x on the telephoto without having to carry a lot of weight of big lenses.
Better weather sealing.
Lower weight
Improved AF.
Increase the camera-presets (c1,c2 and c3) storage from three to four or five and keep the wheel selection. I pre-program the optimum photographic settings in theses presets and the wheel makes this selection almost instantaneous. For example my bird in flight (BIF) settings include AI Servo, Multiple Point AF, +3 Exposure compensation, 1/2000 sec speed and of course Auto ISO, and speed priority. When I see a BIF I instantly shift my camera to optimum settings (c3) and shoot the bird without any delays. It works great!! Please dont change it to some thumbwheel setting that I would have to look. The current wheel can be set to any of the three settings without any delay, and I always know where c3 is because the wheel does not turn any further. When required I can confirm the position of the wheel by turning it to c3 and then counting back to c1 or c2 without even looking at my camera and very quickly.
The switch from video-to-still is too stiff, when it gets slippery (from my hands oil) it is difficult to switch, so make the little handle bigger for more torque with less force.
Video auto focus would be very nice. I find myself focusing in still mode and then switching to video mode for crisp video. When I use LiveView mode many times I do not focus properly and do not realize until I am home watching the video. Too late, scrap that video and that is really bad because video is very important for me. The LCD cannot be used for proper video focusing due to reflecting light and size, maybe if the zoom button worked in video for focusing purposes would be great ie. 5x and 10x zoom for stills works great.
That is it. Otherwise I love my camera and hope that someday the 7D II will have all this great stuff that will make every birder buy this as a must-have tool for improving bird ID accuracy.
Here is a blog I wrote explaining some of the benefits of photography in birding:
http://10000birds.com/photography-and-birding.htm
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Re: Canon 7D Mark II specs wishlist.
Make the 7D Mk II with a FF sensor @ 18MP + Dual Digic 5 (not '5+') = 10fps and DR/NR/ISO improved due to FF
That way preserve the consistency of the Canon model numbers i.e. xD = Pro, xxD = Advanced, xxxD = Enthusiast and xxxxD = Beginner
Make the 7D Mk II with a FF sensor @ 18MP + Dual Digic 5 (not '5+') = 10fps and DR/NR/ISO improved due to FF
That way preserve the consistency of the Canon model numbers i.e. xD = Pro, xxD = Advanced, xxxD = Enthusiast and xxxxD = Beginner
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7D II, isn't that the 5D III? :-X
How I see it at the moment, the new 5D is the new 7D, but has the AF sensor of the 1Dx because they need a FF sensor as it has a FF prism.
If there were to be a new 7D, it would have to compete with the D700. Perhaps drop the 1Dx sensor in to the body. A FF 7D would mean the lines are no longer blurred between the 60D and 650D. 70D can still be a APS-C, can have the same sensor as the 750D but with better AF/AE etc (perhaps that of the 7D II).
7D II, isn't that the 5D III? :-X
How I see it at the moment, the new 5D is the new 7D, but has the AF sensor of the 1Dx because they need a FF sensor as it has a FF prism.
If there were to be a new 7D, it would have to compete with the D700. Perhaps drop the 1Dx sensor in to the body. A FF 7D would mean the lines are no longer blurred between the 60D and 650D. 70D can still be a APS-C, can have the same sensor as the 750D but with better AF/AE etc (perhaps that of the 7D II).
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Wow, that would be incredibly annoying to have some guy playing back pre-recorded bird song while I'm trying to enjoy the woods. Seems quite unethical IMHO.
As far as new 7D features:
1. drop the 18 mp. It's too much for a 1.6x. Go back to 15 or 14 mp for cleaner images. The 7d images are smeary.
2. Weaker AA filter. This also contributes to the smeary look of 7d images at 100%. The new filter needs to be weaker, or none at all.
3. dual CF and SD slots.
4. micro focus adjustment at tele and wide end of zooms.
That's it for me. Keep everything else. What the 7D needs is much better IQ at the pixel level, and less noise. Sell it for $1499 and I'm there.
Wow, that would be incredibly annoying to have some guy playing back pre-recorded bird song while I'm trying to enjoy the woods. Seems quite unethical IMHO.
As far as new 7D features:
1. drop the 18 mp. It's too much for a 1.6x. Go back to 15 or 14 mp for cleaner images. The 7d images are smeary.
2. Weaker AA filter. This also contributes to the smeary look of 7d images at 100%. The new filter needs to be weaker, or none at all.
3. dual CF and SD slots.
4. micro focus adjustment at tele and wide end of zooms.
That's it for me. Keep everything else. What the 7D needs is much better IQ at the pixel level, and less noise. Sell it for $1499 and I'm there.
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This is a very reasonable wish list and I'm with you 100%! I currently have a 60D and I wish I had bought the 7D instead. I have been tempted to move up to the 7D for the better AF, metering and AFMA, but given it has the same sensor as my 60D, until they improve the noise and IQ of the 7D or 60D, I'm hanging onto my current camera. Since I mainly shoot birds and wildlife, I am not tempted by the new 5D MarkIII (too expensive) just want to move up to a better IQ/noise 7D crop.
Diane
Michael7 said:
This is a very reasonable wish list and I'm with you 100%! I currently have a 60D and I wish I had bought the 7D instead. I have been tempted to move up to the 7D for the better AF, metering and AFMA, but given it has the same sensor as my 60D, until they improve the noise and IQ of the 7D or 60D, I'm hanging onto my current camera. Since I mainly shoot birds and wildlife, I am not tempted by the new 5D MarkIII (too expensive) just want to move up to a better IQ/noise 7D crop.
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BTW, you can send in your body (7D, 5DII, not sure about T2i) and have them put on a new locking mode dial for $100. And it definitely looks like new bodies will all have the locking dial.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_7d?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e02480245968
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BRNexus6 said:
BTW, you can send in your body (7D, 5DII, not sure about T2i) and have them put on a new locking mode dial for $100. And it definitely looks like new bodies will all have the locking dial.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_7d?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e02480245968
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