Canon Announcements on April 23, 2013? [CR2]

[Rodknee]

I don't think many people choose a camera based on the company's sales or profit - have yet to see that included on the camera's spec sheet....................

 

[jarrieta]

Oh well basically the same sensor again.

Canon has an investment in the 18 MP APS-C sensor. It appears to be a sweet spot for them. They are then segmenting the market (marketing 101) by changing functions with in the body (AF, buffer size, focus points, ...).

Sensor advances will come in the high end cameras - not the low end cameras. Creating a new sensor is expensive so to get maximum economic return Canon will first release it in high end bodies with higher margins. This given consumer the incentive to purchase a more expensive camera

Oh I understand well how Canon is really a conservative company and they are more responsible to their stakeholders. The company understands the market better than the competition. How else can they be a market leader? Not to say Canon makes poor products but a release like the 700d really has no reason to exist IMHO but to squeeze that sensor for everything it's worth while offering subtle changes. The low-end DSLR's are their bread and butter. Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative. I like their move with the 100D though.

I'm a Rebel user but I'm one of those on the fence to move up to the 70D or 6D, maybe even the 7D2. I'm hoping the 70D will have a noticeable IQ improvement. Otherwise may just go with the 6D.

 

[Canon-F1]

I don't think many people choose a camera based on the company's sales or profit - have yet to see that included on the camera's spec sheet....................

well you don´t get the point...

 

[Canon-F1]

Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative.

i have to play the advocatus diaboli...

can you post such reviews?

most reviews these people will read (from commercial magazines and websites) are pretty good for canon cameras.

you have to come to a website like this or see youtube rants from unkown selfclaimed "experts" to hear really negative stuff about canon.

as much as i like canon to notice those complains... i doubt it will have an effect.

 

[Barrfly]

This looks new http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_333738_-1

 

[drjlo]

We’re told Canon is holding press events on Tuesday, April 23, 2013.

I really wish I could trick myself into getting excited :-[

 

[jarrieta]

Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative.

i have to play the advocatus diaboli...

can you post such reviews?

most reviews these people will read (from commercial magazines and websites) are pretty good for canon cameras.

you have to come to a website like this or see youtube rants from unkown selfclaimed "experts" to hear really negative stuff about canon.

as much as i like canon to notice those complains... i doubt it will have an effect.

Ummmm there are a bunch of reviews and comparisons on the net which for most is the easiest source of information. Let's face it a lot of people would just go to Google and type whatever criteria they want like "which is the best camera for under $1000 and so on." Sure Canon will still make a killing and that's the sad part as long as they profit I see no reason why they will take risks in certain market segments. As much as I think other companies may have better features and innovation at a particular class or price point, I haven't had any problems with the Canon products I've had. That's why despite some gripes I won't be going anywhere else.

 

[weixing]

Pay close attention to the new sensor in the Canon EOS SL1 as far as performance goes. We’re told this sensor will appear in the EOS 70D, but not the EOS 7D Mark II.

Ok, Canon has just mutilated the potential of the 70D to sell well.

LOL.. if canon has proved one thing over and over again it is that they can sell even old bread well.

what people on this forum think has absolutely no influence on the mass market.
actually it´s sad because i too would like to see canon make more progess on image quality.

not that canon cameras make bad quality images.. just that IQ has not much improved over the last years.

Correction: Canon's IQ hasn't changed or improved over the last years for anything besides those moving from the 1D series to the 1DX. Nikon, Sony, Pentax, are all delivering new sensors with better performance.

What is Canon doing?

Nothing. What a joke of a company.

They make nearly a $1 billion in operating profit. Hardly call that a joke. Keep in mind that most purchasers of the low end cameras want very basic functions (I doubt many even shoot in raw) so current technology is good enough for them

Hi,
Totally agree... many people are happy with the image taken from their mobile, so image from any Canon entry level DSLR will be wow to them. IMHO, the selling point of Canon DSLR is easy to use and that will make a big different when choosing their first DSLR.

Have a nice day.

 

[timmy_650]

Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative.

i have to play the advocatus diaboli...

can you post such reviews?

most reviews these people will read (from commercial magazines and websites) are pretty good for canon cameras.

you have to come to a website like this or see youtube rants from unkown selfclaimed "experts" to hear really negative stuff about canon.

as much as i like canon to notice those complains... i doubt it will have an effect.

I have given those reviews to friends. That happens often to me, I know about cameras so my friends ask me what camera they should get. A few months ago a friend told me she was going to get a 7D and i asked her why and it was bc she wanted a good camera. She does most indoor studio work.... so long story short... she shoots a Nikon 600.

 

[Tom W]

Pay close attention to the new sensor in the Canon EOS SL1 as far as performance goes.

I am for certain paying attention to that. Wondering if Canon has really made a significant change to their APS-C sensor or not. That little SL1 might be a pretty versatile little body for use on a telescope, since it's so small and light. Not quite like a dedicated astrophotography tool, but something that the "weekend duffer" with a decent telescope could use.

 

[2n10]

This looks new http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_333738_-1

It has been announced already.

 

[jebrady03]

If this rumor is true, Canon just killed any possibility I'll be replacing my 60D with the 70D. I was hoping for better IQ and dynamic range (happy with what I have for what I paid - but I'd like something better and have the money to spend). Now the question becomes, do I go with a 6D and sell the 60D or just stick with what I've got?

 

[pdirestajr]

If I were to guess, Canon doesn't make or market every one of their cameras to every consumer. They probably don't expect a 60D user to replace their camera with a 70D. If anything, a 60D user should be happy the advancements are only "minor" from one body to the next. I'm happy to not be tempted to spend more money. Why would you wan to upgrade every release? They "need" to make the annual upgrades to keep with their tech advancements.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

stop announcing any stupid news from canon....really rumors at all..

I wonder why you came to a Canon Rumors site just post this? If you don't want to read about Rumors, you came to the wrong place.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Oh well basically the same sensor again.

Canon has an investment in the 18 MP APS-C sensor. It appears to be a sweet spot for them. They are then segmenting the market (marketing 101) by changing functions with in the body (AF, buffer size, focus points, ...).

Sensor advances will come in the high end cameras - not the low end cameras. Creating a new sensor is expensive so to get maximum economic return Canon will first release it in high end bodies with higher margins. This given consumer the incentive to purchase a more expensive camera

wrong on almost everything (other than they have an old investment in their current process, which includes the current 18MP sensor and do want to milk the heck out of it)

highest end bodies sell so few copies the high margin doesn't make up for anything compared to low-end body sales

new sensors have absolutely not always come out in the high end models

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Oh well basically the same sensor again.

Canon has an investment in the 18 MP APS-C sensor. It appears to be a sweet spot for them. They are then segmenting the market (marketing 101) by changing functions with in the body (AF, buffer size, focus points, ...).

Sensor advances will come in the high end cameras - not the low end cameras. Creating a new sensor is expensive so to get maximum economic return Canon will first release it in high end bodies with higher margins. This given consumer the incentive to purchase a more expensive camera

Oh I understand well how Canon is really a conservative company and they are more responsible to their stakeholders. The company understands the market better than the competition. How else can they be a market leader? Not to say Canon makes poor products but a release like the 700d really has no reason to exist IMHO but to squeeze that sensor for everything it's worth while offering subtle changes. The low-end DSLR's are their bread and butter. Some people that are starting into photography probably rely on reviews and eventually the lack on innovation specially on the Rebel line or xxD series will take it toll on Canon's position when they see at the same price point there is a better alternative. I like their move with the 100D though.

I'm a Rebel user but I'm one of those on the fence to move up to the 70D or 6D, maybe even the 7D2. I'm hoping the 70D will have a noticeable IQ improvement. Otherwise may just go with the 6D.

they are a market leader because they once deserved it, they could and should be running away with it not merely just a bit ahead

eventually you'll no longer be if you sit around forever though

their good lenses also helped and the 5D2 video helped for that generation

 

[that1guyy]

Another disappointment from Canon!

It is sad how I have money, ready to buy a new camera, but nothing to spend it on. If only the D7100 had a tilt screen I'd jump right now.

 

[Loswr]

What is Canon doing?

Nothing. What a joke of a company.

What is Canon doing? Delivering value to their shareholders by consistently selling more cameras than their competitors. If that trend continues, the innovations of other manufacturers may become irrelevant.

 

[Don Haines]

Oh well basically the same sensor again.

Canon has an investment in the 18 MP APS-C sensor. It appears to be a sweet spot for them. They are then segmenting the market (marketing 101) by changing functions with in the body (AF, buffer size, focus points, ...).

Sensor advances will come in the high end cameras - not the low end cameras. Creating a new sensor is expensive so to get maximum economic return Canon will first release it in high end bodies with higher margins. This given consumer the incentive to purchase a more expensive camera

wrong on almost everything (other than they have an old investment in their current process, which includes the current 18MP sensor and do want to milk the heck out of it)

highest end bodies sell so few copies the high margin doesn't make up for anything compared to low-end body sales

new sensors have absolutely not always come out in the high end models

New technology ALWAYS comes on the top high end models first.......

Just like Digic 6 did not first appear on powershots..... Just like WiFi was first on the 1DX

Look at the upcoming (rumoured) high megapixel camera..... it looks like it may have equivalent pixel density to a T5i. If you really want a good clue what it will be like, watch the specs for the upcoming (rumoured) 7D2, that should tell you to expect for sensor performance.... and should show you what to expect from other FF upgrades....

Stuff will be introduced when it is ready..... something has to be first.... you can not hold up ALL lines to wait for one.

 

[bseitz234]

Just like WiFi was first on the 1DX

Just to nitpick for the sake of nitpicking (I agree with what you are saying in general): Wifi is hardly new technology anymore... :

Also, since this thread has already deteriorated like dozens before it, I guess I'll share this observation here. Canon may be a market leader in terms of sales, profit, whatever, but in at least one market, they're WAY behind. I was in Washington, DC this week for a conference at a hotel right across from the national zoo. I would go for a walk in the zoo on lunch break, because the weather was nice and it was outdoors. I saw dozens of small Nikon SLRs, and in 3 days of walking around, only two other Canon SLRs: one CPS member with a 1Dx+300 2.8 II, and a 7D+70-200 IS II. Not that this was conclusive in any way, it was just an unexpected observation I made...