Canon confirms addition of Canon Log 3, Cinema RAW Light, lower bit rates and more for the EOS-1D X Mark III and EOS R5

[landon]

Canon has to justify the price differences between R5 and R6 and 1DX3 and this might be a means to do that.

The R6 will be competing with hybrid A7iv. So I'll say it'll get Clog 3, lower bit rates on all video modes. Hoping 4K120p(gimp/crop)

 

[Mike9129]

This is good

if they can do some more fiddling with the cooldown times for the 8k/4k 120p then itll be a great camera.
I dont need long clips, but I do need the camera to be consistent between shots. They seem to be working on it which is great news

Also, what should we expect with Clog3? +1 stop dynamic range? more? less?

 

[Bert63]

I fear that the R5 will be getting all the good updates/upgrades while the R6 will get close to nothing.

Not to insult the R6, but I wouldn’t expect it to get as many features as the R5...

 

[sanj]

Does lower bit rate not equate to a reduction in IQ?

 

[edoorn]

Lower bit rate option for 8K RAW video recording

What's the benefit? Less heat?

don't know, but smaller file size / easier to edit for sure?

 

[landon]

Where/how has this been confirmed?

R6 you mean? Another poster says Gordon Lang respond to No Life youtuber's video, where he hints at R6 firmware coming.
I suspect the first R6 firmware will be bug fix just like this first R5 firmware. The subsequent firmware will add features.

 

[Aregal]

Lower bit rate option for 8K RAW video recording

What's the benefit? Less heat?

I think the real gain would be being able to store more footage on a card. The extra processing would lead me to expect more heat and shorter run times...but that's just my $0.02.

 

[vangelismm]

I think the real gain would be being able to store more footage on a card. The extra processing would lead me to expect more heat and shorter run times...but that's just my $0.02.

Would be a trade off, i think would be less heat on the card, especially the CFe.

 

[-pekr-]

Could lower bitrates prolong the shooting periods? Otoh it will also mean a lower quality stream, no? So that shooting in HQ mode might not make much sense then?

 

[futzy]

ONE THOUSANDS....

ONE THOUSANDS FOUR HUNDRED

 

[futzy]

Lower bit rate option for 8K RAW video recording

What's the benefit? Less heat?

Yes and less space needed!

 

[Stu_bert]

I don't suppose there are any rumours to update the EOS R firmware with animal AF?

I believe a lot of the AF calculations are done in Digic X, so what we have with the R is about as good as it is going to get.

 

[Baron_Karza]

This is good

if they can do some more fiddling with the cooldown times for the 8k/4k 120p then itll be a great camera.
I dont need long clips, but I do need the camera to be consistent between shots. They seem to be working on it which is great news

Also, what should we expect with Clog3? +1 stop dynamic range? more? less?

Firmware update for the cool down:

BEFORE:

iWait_CoolDown = 10;

NOW:

iWait_CoolDown = 5;

That's all it was!

Haha!

 

[Stu_bert]

Does lower bit rate not equate to a reduction in IQ?

Yes, but is it not if that is perceptable? I've never tried cRAW, but others claim that it is difficult to see where the compression has impacted the quality. I'm sure there are probably threads here where people have seen it.

Ultimately, it will be interesting to see if CRL offers better quality than 4KHQ and for less or comparable cost in terms of heat etc.

I'm also guessing that Digic X has the capability to assist in HW - whether that is similar to what it needs for cRAW or whether they are comparable, not a scoobie.

 

[Jordan23]

Also, what should we expect with Clog3? +1 stop dynamic range? more? less?

Clog has 12 stops, and Clog3 has 14 stops so theoretically 2 stops.

 

[BradL]

I'm sure R6 will get good updates also. Rumored firmware soon.

The updates sound good, now if I could only get my R5 so I can update it. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas and it's still 3 months away!

 

[Stu_bert]

I think the real gain would be being able to store more footage on a card. The extra processing would lead me to expect more heat and shorter run times...but that's just my $0.02.

Truth is we don't know.

I would be surprised if Canon hasn't already tested it quickly and they know the heat envelope is lower, otherwise would that not be putting gasoline on the fire again. Unless CRL was always on the plan, I am hoping this will lower the heat for 8K Raw and the storage to boot. I'm also hoping as per above, a lot of it is in Digic as HW routines which will cost less in terms of compute and heat.

 

[derpderp]

just bloody fix the overheating issue Canon! The R5 is utterly unusable as a camera at this moment in time! I want my 8K cinema raw with unlimited record times as PROMISED!!!!!
















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[Tyler Edwards]

I am absolutely THRILLED about the updates for the 1DXIII. Shame timelapse movie mode isn't in this update though. Wish that could be included.

 

[Stu_bert]

R6 you mean? Another poster says Gordon Lang respond to No Life youtuber's video, where he hints at R6 firmware coming.
I suspect the first R6 firmware will be bug fix just like this first R5 firmware. The subsequent firmware will add features.

Yes, I can see the R6 getting the fixes, the changes in the heat algorithms and then subsequent I think they will get the HD120 and the lower bitrate 4K modes. The HD120 seems to have not quite made the cut - no doubt due to Covid - and the rest will help alleviate the time before you get the overheat warning, and how long it takes to recover.

I think clog3 will only be for the R5 - as others have said - differentiation, but who knows, maybe Canon will surprise us all.