Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>More information

</strong>Now that the EF 24-70 f/2.8L has been redone, the most requested lens to be replaced with a new version is the Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS.  A few patents exist for a new 100-400, you can see them <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/11/another-ef-100-400-patent/" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/09/canon-ef-100-400-f4-5-6l-is-patent-pending/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>The lens isn’t for an immediate announcement, as we’re told they may be waiting for Nikon to announce the much needed replacement to their 80-400.</p>
<p>We’re told 2 designs currently exist for the lens, and at least one of them has a zoom ring instead of the polarizing “push/pull”. The lens is also said to be weather sealed, slightly faster starting at f/4, a bit heavier than the current version and has the latest and greatest IS system.</p>
<p>This lens could also be considered the IS replacement for the EF 400 f/5.6L, especially if it’s better optically. I’m sure this point may not be what a lot of people wanted to read.</p>
<p>No mention of a timeframe for an announcement. I suspect it’ll be after the 200-400.</p>
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[Loswr]

This is one lens I'll definitely pre-order, if it becomes a reality... I really like my current 100-400mm, the push-pull is fine (and the new lens definitely need to be an extending zoom of some sort to preserve the relatively compact size), but weather sealing, better IS, and a bit more sharpness would be very welcome!

 

[FunPhotons]

To help keep my spending in check I only buy a new lens or gadget just after a new version has been released. What I've gotten so far is 580exII, 16-35II, 70-200II and 600RT's. The 100-400 II is definitely on my list.

 

[Dylan777]

My future gear:
Body: 5D III + 7D II or 70D crop
Lenses: 50L + 14-24L + 24-70L II + 70-200L 2.8 IS II + 100-400L II

 

[Astro]

the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

 

[vlim]

That would be great ! I only hope it won't cost more than 2000 € :-\

Do you think it could be the new lens that replace the 400 f/5.6 and also the 300 f/4

 

[FunPhotons]

It's a popular lens, maybe lower ... $2200? They might surprise and keep the price below $2k due to the popularity, as $2k is seen as a barrier point.

 

[bp]

the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

yeah, cost is the big question for me. The last rumor here mentioned a $3k price tag (yikes).

after just taking the plunge on a used one of the current model 2 days ago (haven't even received shipment yet), my stomach lurched a bit at seeing the title of this post... but frankly, if the new version is priced anywhere in the $3k neighborhood I doubt mk1 used prices will be affected much

 

[Lee Jay]

This lens needed a replacement far worse than the 24-70 or 70-200.

I used mine on Friday and the IS system just flat stinks compared to even the old version of the 70-200. I lost about 90% of the shots I would have gotten with my 70-200 at the same focal lengths and shutter speeds.

I don't mind the push-pull, but the handling of the current 100-400 is the pits. The most comfortable place to put your hand is on the locking ring and focus ring meaning your constantly messing up focus while zooming. The focus ring should be on the very end like it is on the 70-200, and the locking ring shouldn't move the focus ring.

 

[Etienne]

This could be my poor-man's nature/wildlife lens.
The 70-200 2.8 II with 2x converter is ok, but a little slow focus and soft at 5.6. Better at f8.

 

[rpt]

This lens needed a replacement far worse than the 24-70 or 70-200.

I used mine on Friday and the IS system just flat stinks compared to even the old version of the 70-200. I lost about 90% of the shots I would have gotten with my 70-200 at the same focal lengths and shutter speeds.

I don't mind the push-pull, but the handling of the current 100-400 is the pits. The most comfortable place to put your hand is on the locking ring and focus ring meaning your constantly messing up focus while zooming. The focus ring should be on the very end like it is on the 70-200, and the locking ring shouldn't move the focus ring.

That is not my experience now. Before AFMA though, I was very unhappy with my shots using the 100-400. However, I shot 400 odd pictures on Saturday most of a hawk while doing AFMA. I shot about 200 after I was happy with the AFMA and all were hand shot with my 100-400 on the 5D3. All those came out sharp. I put up a few images yesterday that you can check. The link is http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7576.msg138751#msg138751.

I hold the lens under the tripod mount as I feel that is the most balanced location for me.

 

[Lee Jay]

This lens needed a replacement far worse than the 24-70 or 70-200.

I used mine on Friday and the IS system just flat stinks compared to even the old version of the 70-200. I lost about 90% of the shots I would have gotten with my 70-200 at the same focal lengths and shutter speeds.

I don't mind the push-pull, but the handling of the current 100-400 is the pits. The most comfortable place to put your hand is on the locking ring and focus ring meaning your constantly messing up focus while zooming. The focus ring should be on the very end like it is on the 70-200, and the locking ring shouldn't move the focus ring.

That is not my experience now. Before AFMA though, I was very unhappy with my shots using the 100-400. However, I shot 400 odd pictures on Saturday most of a hawk while doing AFMA. I shot about 200 after I was happy with the AFMA and all were hand shot with my 100-400 on the 5D3. All those came out sharp. I put up a few images yesterday that you can check. The link is http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7576.msg138751#msg138751.

I hold the lens under the tripod mount as I feel that is the most balanced location for me.

This had nothing to do with AF, it had to do with IS being pretty darned worthless on this lens, at least compared to more modern lenses.

 

[rpt]

This had nothing to do with AF, it had to do with IS being pretty darned worthless on this lens, at least compared to more modern lenses.

Hmmm... Again not my experience. My daughter who is 5'3 hand shot the moon a couple of times on my 300D at 400mm and 1/60th. And the shots were sharp. Sorry you are not happy with yours.

 

[Lee Jay]

This had nothing to do with AF, it had to do with IS being pretty darned worthless on this lens, at least compared to more modern lenses.

Hmmm... Again not my experience. My daughter who is 5'3 hand shot the moon a couple of times on my 300D at 400mm and 1/60th. And the shots were sharp. Sorry you are not happy with yours.

I got about 50% at 1/60th and 300mm. I get 90+% at 1/30th and 300mm on my 70-200 (with TCs).

 

[tron]

the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

Or, if the algorithm is not 2X but +1000 it will be around 2300 euro which is no good either

 

[tomscott]

I have had nothing but good experiences with this lens. In the day before IS people didnt complain. If you are relying on technology like IS too much you need to go back to how you shoot and improve.

 

[Astro]

the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

Or, if the algorithm is not 2X but +1000 it will be around 2300 euro which is no good either

yep.... i have a few hobbys but photography is the only one where the gear gets more expensive each year (beside the normal rate of price increases).

to bad the photography world does not work like the computer world.
or we would have cheap FF cameras by now.

of course the bad thing for us photographers is that a FF sensor can not be shrinked so that more of them fit on a wafer.

 

[lol]

The push-pull is probably the feature (other than focal length range) I like most about the existing version. So expect it to go to a slower less accurate modern twist design for the next version. Radical thought: is there any way they could come up with a reliable physical design that allows both twist and push-pull zoom on the same lens?

I don't have any major complaints of the existing version. About the only problem I have is water ingress and I've dried it out on more than one occasion, so better sealing on a new version would be a big plus for me. The other is that a shorter minimum focus distance would be really nice, and faster focus speed.

 

[Astro]

the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

Or, if the algorithm is not 2X but +1000 it will be around 2300 euro which is no good either

yep.... i have a few hobbys but photography is the only one where the gear gets more expensive each year (beside the normal rate of price increases).

to bad the photography world does not work like the computer world.
or we would have cheap FF cameras by now.

of course the bad thing for us photographers is that a FF sensor can not be shrinked so that more of them fit on a wafer.

www.grammarly.com

na wie gut kann der herr klugscheißer wohl deutsch?
oder wollen wir uns in schwedisch unterhalten, spanisch hatte ich auch 3 jahre lang!

mal wieder ein typischer dämlicher amerikaner, der gerade mal seine eigene landesprache beherrscht?

warum schreibt die welt englisch?
weil die amis dank ihrem schulsystem ja nichts anderes beherrschen.

LOL

http://translate.google.de/

 

[Canon-F1]

the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

Or, if the algorithm is not 2X but +1000 it will be around 2300 euro which is no good either

yep.... i have a few hobbys but photography is the only one where the gear gets more expensive each year (beside the normal rate of price increases).

to bad the photography world does not work like the computer world.
or we would have cheap FF cameras by now.

of course the bad thing for us photographers is that a FF sensor can not be shrinked so that more of them fit on a wafer.

www.grammarly.com

na wie gut kann der herr klugscheißer wohl deutsch?
oder wollen wir uns in schwedisch unterhalten, spanisch hatte ich auch 3 jahre lang!

mal wieder ein typischer dämlicher amerikaner, der gerade mal seine eigene landesprache beherrscht?

warum schreibt die welt englisch?
weil die amis dank ihrem schulsystem ja nichts anderes beherrschen.

LOL

http://translate.google.de/

Lach, ja ich würde es auch mal ganz erfrischend finden, wenn die Amis einfach mal ihre Fresse halten würden.

+1

Würde nicht nur ihrem EX-Presidenten "Afrika ist ein Staat" G.W. Bush gut zu Gesicht stehen.

Aber viele Amerikaner merken gar nicht wie ungebildet sie eigentlich sind.
Wer nichts von der Welt kennt oder über sie lernt, kann leicht denken er wäre etwas besonderes.

Ich bin übrigens gebürtiger Franzose.. man entschuldige bitte meine Deutsche Rechtschreibung.