Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Delayed Again

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#41
I'm another person who sold my original 24-70 shortly after the version II was announced because it was so damn unreliable - soft at wide apertures all the way through f/4. Just could not depend on it for jobs. The new lens was supposed to ship about 2 months after announced so I was willing to wait.... but not this frickin' long. Really PO'd that Canon hasn't started shipping this lens yet BUT they have been able to get the new 24mm, 28mm and 40mm lenses out. WTF Canon! >:(
 
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#42
Yup... I sold my 24-105 for this and am patiently waiting..
Decided to get the 5d III + the 24+70 II and 70-200II for a big trip I'm taking in august. Thought I'd be safe...

I'm also waiting for the 5D III SDK to be released for some software I use..... It was supposed to be out in June.
 
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#44
Oh the irony.

I have one on pre-order as the expected "walk around" lens for my 1Dx. So as the 1Dx is delayed and delayed I start to think that the actual ship times will get close. Now my 1Dx is likely to ship "any day now" and BOOM - the 24-70 II jumps out another 6 weeks...

/sigh
 
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#45
bdunbar79 said:
Here's a rule I live by in photography, and this goes for the 1D X and the 24-70L II. I have seen this happen over and over again. Never sell anything because something new is coming out UNTIL you have the new item in your hand, at home. Then sell.
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This issue is not unique to Canon (or any camera maker). If you want to find a bad track record for delivery on a product roadmap, you need look no further than the software industry. Microsoft has been pretty bad. EMC is terrible with its Ionix product suite, with product releases being delayed sometimes by years!
 
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#46
Another thing - I thought I'd give that new Tamron 24-70 with VC/IS a try thinking maybe it could be a great lens and I could save about a grand. I bought one from B&H, used it for one wedding and didn't really like it so I returned it for a refund. It's a decent lens, but not that sharp and the focus is slow. Probably a good choice for most casual shooters but not for professional use, IMHO.
 
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#47
SPEWING!!!!

I have a 1-week epic snow trip in mid August and this was going to be my pano lens with my Really Right Stuff nodal slide gear. I am lusting after it because of the supposed corner sharpness - better for the pano-stitch work than what I'm used to.

SPEWING!!!!!
 
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canonian said:
Another thing - I thought I'd give that new Tamron 24-70 with VC/IS a try thinking maybe it could be a great lens and I could save about a grand. I bought one from B&H, used it for one wedding and didn't really like it so I returned it for a refund. It's a decent lens, but not that sharp and the focus is slow. Probably a good choice for most casual shooters but not for professional use, IMHO.
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Was your problem w/ the Tamron that it wasn't sharp at all (at what apertures?), or not across the whole picture? And concerning the af: Did you find it just to be slow, but precise, or both - and in what lighting conditions?
 
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Marsu42 said:
canonian said:
Another thing - I thought I'd give that new Tamron 24-70 with VC/IS a try thinking maybe it could be a great lens and I could save about a grand. I bought one from B&H, used it for one wedding and didn't really like it so I returned it for a refund. It's a decent lens, but not that sharp and the focus is slow. Probably a good choice for most casual shooters but not for professional use, IMHO.
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Was your problem w/ the Tamron that it wasn't sharp at all (at what apertures?), or not across the whole picture? And concerning the af: Did you find it just to be slow, but precise, or both - and in what lighting conditions?
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I didn't say "it wasn't sharp at all" but it's not as sharp as my old 24-70 was when I first got it. Unfortunately after a few years of getting good use out of it, the sharpness just went away (especially at wide apertures). I tried getting it re-calibrated three times - three times from Canon and once from a respectable service center but it was never the same.

The focus seemed accurate but it was slow in any light compared to my other lenses except the 85/1.2 which I think is slow because of the big hunk of glass it has. This is on a 5D II and in addition to the 85/1.2L, I have a 35/1.4L, 16-35/2.8L, 70-200/2.8L IS, 50/1.8 and 100/2.8L IS.
 
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canonian said:
The focus seemed accurate but it was slow in any light compared to my other lenses except the 85/1.2 which I think is slow because of the big hunk of glass it has.
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Thanks for the clarification - it's known that the Tamron af is *slower* than the excellent Canon usm, but as with the 85L this is about getting used to it if possible., and after all it's less half the price of the new Canon.

I was asking because some people stated that the Tamron af not *precise* in addition to being slower - but this doesn't seem to have been the issue for you.
 
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#51
Canon is either inept or seriously abusing customer brand loyalty. They consistently announce products that are nowhere near ready for market. I can’t help but think that this is intended to keep loyal Canon owners from jumping ship to other brands that actually seem to get quality products out in a timely manner. This happens too frequently to be accidental. I’m getting sick of it! I ordered this lens early to use with a very special book project to be shot over this summer with my 5D Mark III. I can’t help but feel manipulated. Canon: get your act together or get prepared for defections to other brands! Nikon is looking better and better every day.
 
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#52
For some reason I have the feeling that Canon has such a hard time releasing something better than the current 24-70 in order to justify the 1000$ extra that they are just having way to much defective units on the production chain...
 
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#53
almograve said:
For some reason I have the feeling that Canon has such a hard time releasing something better than the current 24-70 in order to justify the 1000$ extra that they are just having way to much defective units on the production chain...
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"Defective" is relative concerning iq - the manufacturer sets a max. production tolerance beyond that lenses are not delivered. I think this and more rigorous in-house testing is Canon's current problem:

For this price (without IS!), every lens shipped must be stellar, or they'll be torn to shreds in reviews and from loyal customers waiting all this time. Since they obviously couldn't achieve an adequate production quality across all lenses yet, they delayed the whole thing rather than delivering a few.
 
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