Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
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I know many folks are disappointed at the 24-70 II which does not have IS... but got me thinking.
This is a beast of a lens... and looking at the MTF graphs... looks to be a huge performer.
Does the lens come before the cart so to speak...
Would make sense to me, especially if Canon has a beast of a MP body on the forefront that there will need to be better glass to really take advantage of a more dense sensor.
So maybe the 24-70, and especially the larger filter size in the front has a lot more to do with a more complete higher performing package down the line.
And while some of the other lens releases have many shaking their heads, maybe Canon saw something with the old versions on their development bodies that required improvement.
When I start seeing the revamping of lenses going on, especially when some of them seem "lateral" in nature (i.e. no major improvement in speed of glass), it makes me think that Canon is paying attention to IQ and that they saw holes in their lens performance with the larger resolution that they wanted to correct up front.
It also may explain why many have commented that the High ISO images on the D800 seem noisy or unimpressive.
Larger resolution without a doubt will show some flaws in lenses that might have otherwise been less apparent, just the same as why some lenses that have flaws on a FF often perform better on a crop (like soft outsides, vignetting, etc.)
Something tells me Canon is fine with what is going on and a flanking maneuver may be under foot
This is a beast of a lens... and looking at the MTF graphs... looks to be a huge performer.
Does the lens come before the cart so to speak...
Would make sense to me, especially if Canon has a beast of a MP body on the forefront that there will need to be better glass to really take advantage of a more dense sensor.
So maybe the 24-70, and especially the larger filter size in the front has a lot more to do with a more complete higher performing package down the line.
And while some of the other lens releases have many shaking their heads, maybe Canon saw something with the old versions on their development bodies that required improvement.
When I start seeing the revamping of lenses going on, especially when some of them seem "lateral" in nature (i.e. no major improvement in speed of glass), it makes me think that Canon is paying attention to IQ and that they saw holes in their lens performance with the larger resolution that they wanted to correct up front.
It also may explain why many have commented that the High ISO images on the D800 seem noisy or unimpressive.
Larger resolution without a doubt will show some flaws in lenses that might have otherwise been less apparent, just the same as why some lenses that have flaws on a FF often perform better on a crop (like soft outsides, vignetting, etc.)
Something tells me Canon is fine with what is going on and a flanking maneuver may be under foot
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I like the specs, but, I don't like the filter diameter. I have three lenses, all at 77mm and have been preparing to grab more filters (graduated ND, nd's, maybe some others). So to upgrade to this, I would also need to collect a new set of filters (and then a step up ring????) Ugggg...
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Maui5150 said:
When you consider the 24 and 28 that just came out, I think this is sound logic.
Let's think of it a different way--how many of you pros out there are going to make MORE money because you have the mk II of this lens? (This is an honest question, not rhetorical.) I think iff the answer is "not very many" that leads credence to the argument that there is a body coming that can better use the capabilities of the new lens(es).
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papa-razzi said:
"than you are most likely shooting in low light" - there are a large number of people that use fast lens for shallow DOF rather than low light - studio shooters, portraits, weddings, (daylight) street
It is a bit like saying that flash is only used in low light situations 8) 8) 8)
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Canon has officially gone completely mental!!!
The new 24-70 II is 3 5 0 0 usd in Norway and the UK, that is TWICE what the old one is, wtf Canon???
But it doesn't matter, the last 6 lenses Canon released is clearly not going to be sold, we've been waiting a year for them. The 1d X is nowhere to be seen, except for some frikkin sucky promo pictures...
Getting pretty tired of Canon releasing stuff that we never see in actual real life....
The new 24-70 II is 3 5 0 0 usd in Norway and the UK, that is TWICE what the old one is, wtf Canon???
But it doesn't matter, the last 6 lenses Canon released is clearly not going to be sold, we've been waiting a year for them. The 1d X is nowhere to be seen, except for some frikkin sucky promo pictures...
Getting pretty tired of Canon releasing stuff that we never see in actual real life....
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The more I look at those MTF charts, the more I'm amazed by them. My initial response was exactly WTF?!?!? But seriously, look at those charts. It's better all across the way, but at the edges the improvements are monstrous. I'm guessing this will outperform practically every prime that exists. If you're stopping down your 1.xx primes to over 2, you might just be way way better off with this lens.
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Viggo said:
Perhaps a holiday in the UK then? - 70-200II is only 1869 gbp here
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-canon-ef-70-200mm-f2-8-l-is-ii-usm-lens/p1518838
Current 24-70 is only 995 gbp
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-canon-ef-24-70mm-f2-8-l-usm-lens/p12835
I would estimate the new 24-70 to be about the same as the 70-200II - about 1600-1800 gbp
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smirkypants said:
Really?
the 24 f1.4 II
the 35 f1.4
the 50 f1.2
i dunno its hard to make comparisons from charts but it will be interesting to see the pics when they hit the street. Might make me reconsider it as an option if it really is that good. I was never impressed with the original so there was alot of room for improvement
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briansquibb said:
Hopefully , you're right:
http://www.parkcameras.com/23301/Canon-EF-24-70mm-f-2-8L-II-USM.html?referrer=Froogle+&utm_source=google&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=pid23301
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Anyone else seen that the 24-70 II has 9 aperture blades? Maybe it will have both sharper focused parts and better smoother bokeh.
No doubt it will be wonderful, but the loss of the wonderful zoom design with effective lens hood all across , and MUCH less protection of the barrel with the new one and no IS and very expensive 82mm filters (which I certainly do not own already) and this price makes it harder to sell... IF they can make IS in the wide primes, why not in the most popular standard zoom?
No doubt it will be wonderful, but the loss of the wonderful zoom design with effective lens hood all across , and MUCH less protection of the barrel with the new one and no IS and very expensive 82mm filters (which I certainly do not own already) and this price makes it harder to sell... IF they can make IS in the wide primes, why not in the most popular standard zoom?
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I don't think this lens needs IS at all. But it is a given that Nikon and others are going to put similar technology in their refresh of their lenses which are much closer to reality than the markIII of this lens..... Canon may be stuck without IS on this lens for quite a long time...
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