Canon EOS-1D X Delays [CR2]

[nikkito]

Call me crazy, but eventhough it's a new camera, with all this delays and everything, I have the feeling this camera is old!

Maybe it's true what many of you have said here, maybe the replacements of the 1D X is coming before this new/old/inexistent model. :

 

[Viggo]

At 12 fps you would run through those 400k actuations at the same time it takes the 5d3 to run through the 150k. And that being said, the less strain on the shutter, the longer it lasts (over what canon guarantees) We've seen the thread were people have put 1 million actuations on a 50d. I'm not worried about running out on the 5d3. Plus, that shutter will be way less expensive to replace.

This is of course a stand alone point. If you HAVE TO HAVE 12 fps for your fast action work, the 5d isn't an option. But for me who have always loved and used 1d's, I couldn't be happier that the X was delayed long enough for me to jump on a 5d3. I LOVE that thing.

 

[Viggo]

Call me crazy, but eventhough it's a new camera, with all this delays and everything, I have the feeling this camera is old!

+1 ! If it's only that much better than the 5d3 like we've seen, with obvious better noisehandling, but not much else, and it essentially is what was announced and all this time was just spent fixing what they promised soon to be a year ago, I agree with you. It feels old, we've know what it suppose to do, but can't do it.

I don't invite people to a stuntshow promising I can jump 60 buses on a dirt-bike while I draw the people watching while I'm doing backflips and when people show up I simply say "Oh, but, uhm, I need to practice first, I have never been on a bike like this..."

 

[wockawocka]

Maybe we'll have red af points and f8 in the revised version.

 

[Viggo]

Maybe we'll have red af points and f8 in the revised version.

My money would be on this too.

This is also one of the reasons I think it's feeling old. People already want new features, and frankly, they should have been there already. But I think it's VERY unlikely that they add something of extreme significance. People, including me, are going to be dissapointed to see the entire list of things we're hope to be added, just wiped away, and we are stuck with what we already know about features. So if canon made it right from the start, and announced and produced and it hit the shelfs in january, this would have been a fantastic camera. Now it will be an anti-climax.

 

[nikkito]

Call me crazy, but eventhough it's a new camera, with all this delays and everything, I have the feeling this camera is old!

I don't invite people to a stuntshow promising I can jump 60 buses on a dirt-bike while I draw the people watching while I'm doing backflips and when people show up I simply say "Oh, but, uhm, I need to practice first, I have never been on a bike like this..."

that was a great analogy. apparently Canon does that hehe

 

[PhilDrinkwater]

Call me crazy, but eventhough it's a new camera, with all this delays and everything, I have the feeling this camera is old!

+1 ! If it's only that much better than the 5d3 like we've seen, with obvious better noisehandling, but not much else, and it essentially is what was announced and all this time was just spent fixing what they promised soon to be a year ago, I agree with you. It feels old, we've know what it suppose to do, but can't do it.

I don't invite people to a stuntshow promising I can jump 60 buses on a dirt-bike while I draw the people watching while I'm doing backflips and when people show up I simply say "Oh, but, uhm, I need to practice first, I have never been on a bike like this..."

If I'm honest, the core 1dx market won't care. They just want a tool to do a job. Generally speaking, they don't come on forum sites since they are busy covering the Olympics etc...

If there are delays due to adding new significant features or changing hardware, you can be pretty sure it's due to getting feedback from people who've used them for a while and they have to get this camera right.

 

[Ivar]

You sound like any earlier Canon camera has had no FW update. Considering how complex the software has become, a FW update is rather a minor thing. Important is to get the HW right and the product 99% working.

P.S I'm willing to make a bet that the 1Dx gets its FW update as well, absolutely no doubt.

P.P.S Internet unfortunately works that way by making rare things seemingly to affect everybody and often. The reality for the D800 is the same as for the 5D3 - in the real world usage no problems for majority.

Perhaps Canon have learnt from Nikon's mistake of early release of the D800 and D4. They have just issued their first firmware upgrade to cure lockups and other issues.

Can you imagine the noise if Canon released the 1DX with those problems. The only hitch with the 5DIII was the non problem of the light leak which was blown out of all proportion.

The D800 issues are real nasty things - I would be sending the D800 back if this happened to me

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11677-12641

 

[sanj]

Perhaps their strategy is to make all the impatient photographers buy 5d3. Then come out with a super 1dx and tantalize them to buy 1dx also.
In other words I am hoping the IQ of 1dx is way ahead of 5d3... (Don't pounce on me, I love the IQ of my 5d3 but I also know that 1 series have the best IQ of comparable models.)

In any case my 1dx is on pre order.. life is too short to buy cars...

 

[Bob Howland]

Maybe we'll have red af points and f8 in the revised version.

That would be my guess. More importantly to me, where is the 200-400 lens?

 

[nikkito]

i've hold and tested both cameras and they are in different leagues.

 

[nikkito]

the 5d3 is real and the 1dx isn't

 

[onlyme]

They could delay this till the end of the year, I'm still going to get one.

 

[FunPhotons]

I work in engineering in a similar industry. For such a thing to happen, a 8-12 month delay, something got seriously fuu-d up. Its probably in production or engineering but we'll never know. Marketing or management could have done it too by over promising on features or schedule. It's probably a number of things rather than a single one. If it was a single problem, those usually call for a one shot delay, say of a month. This long of a delay is probably due to a series of problems.

 

[expatinasia]

I would be expect to hear a lot of noise if they shipped their new flagship with the issues such as black/red AF points etc not resolved. Let's hope that all the issues that are currently known and most that aren't are ironed out before it gets shipped.

 

[dswatson83]

Based on the time of the delay, this is not a firmware update issue. Something is indeed not performing as desired or there is a manufacturing problem. Canon would not miss the Olympics with a flagship sports camera because of black focus points. Nikon should take advantage of this and launch a major campaign before the Olympics. The Nikon D4 is a monster compared to the 1D mark IV. I'm a bit worried because so much of the 5DIII seems to be taken from the 1DX parts bin. I can't figure out what would affect the 1Dx so badly that wouldn't also affect the 5DIII.

 

[pwp]

I work in engineering in a similar industry. For such a thing to happen, a 8-12 month delay, something got seriously fuu-d up.

It's certainly several months since the camera was announced, but the release date was always put there as March/April 2012. So really that's a couple of months. (So far!) I'd prefer they withheld the release until it's 100% right, even if it's post-Olympics. This camera can't be an anticlimax from Canon...it has to be an absolute killer. I'm enjoying most things about the 5D3, but just can't bring myself to cancel the 1DX pre-order.

PW

 

[NormanBates]

Dear Canon: if cameras are not in photographers' hands for Euro Cup and Olympics... epic fail

 

[Tan]

In real life I guess the target group for this camera really don't care too much for an effective delay of couple of months. But still... *If* Canon misses to release the 1DX in time for the olympics then I'd say they have some serious operational problems. Nikon and Sony will hardly wait to exploit this...

 

[simonxu11]

What I heard is the reflex mirror problem because of the 14fps continious shoot