Canon EOS-1D X Review

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GDub said:
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I am sorry. I was truly off topic. The issue of human rights means a lot more to me because of my family's history than the 1D X does. I was caught by the troll about the China issue.


If by "troll" you were referring to me, well, helpful, I am no troll. My "China" post was in response to someone who suggested that since "all manufacturers" are outsourcing to a low wage, and sometimes abused workforce, that that is somehow OK--because we, the more privileged, reap the benefits by getting discounts on electronic gear (including cameras). And that relates to the 5DM3 references in this thread that wax on about "value" in relation to bells and whistles. "Why should I have to pay $XXX more for something that is only 'marginally' better than the last version...?" Why? Because the price of EVERYTHING has gone up CONSIDERABLY over the past 4 years since the 5D2 was released. That the price went up for the next iteration reflects economic reality. For me, the "marginal" improvements to the 5DM3 are well worth the extra cost. And, personally, I'm not interested in saving a few bucks off someone else's hardship--aka, the underpaid and overworked laborers of the world.

As an aside to the 5DM3 price bemoaners (and to trollishly belabor the point even more):

I put new tires on my car earlier this week. The last time I replaced the tires on the car was 4 years ago. I went to the same local tire shop both times. The tires I bought were the identical brand and model that I bought 4 years ago. Same tires, same shop. The difference... PRICE! 4 years ago they cost $610 (mounting, balancing and tax included). This time I paid $750--ON SALE! Now one might say, "You got gouged because there were no improvements. Why pay more?" But I say that's how much prices for my particular tire brand and model have increased over the past 4 years. I say that with confidence because I know the people at the tire shop. Been going there for years and they have ALWAYS done me right--actually they have quite a stellar business reputation in general.

So my point is that the Mark II's original $2700 price tag compared to the Mark III's $3500 price tag is more or less right in line with general price increases for almost EVERYTHING over the past 4 years. That the Mark III actually has notable improvements over the Mark II makes the price increase seem even more reasonable to me.

Agreed.
 
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GDub said:
helpful said:
I am sorry. I was truly off topic. The issue of human rights means a lot more to me because of my family's history than the 1D X does. I was caught by the troll about the China issue.


If by "troll" you were referring to me, well, helpful, I am no troll.

No, I didn't mean you. There was someone who posted a long thing about how it wasn't so bad now in China, and it was getting a lot better. I am not trying to attack anyone, so I am not even going to look at who said it.
 
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lipe said:

A friend of mine who lives in Thailand, called Canon TH and even went into a Canon shop. Those he spoke to had never heard of the camera, and not one person could give a price. So, I would guess that those that are buying or selling the camera there, are getting it from Malaysia or Singapore. I would be very wary myself.
 
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Marsu42 said:
SandyP said:
The sensor isn't nearly as similar as people are describing..

You're correct, there have been sensor changes from the 5d2 to the 5d3 - a little bit more mp with the tradeoff of a little decrease in dr and some loss of sharpness due to the stronger aa filter :-p ... ok, and to be fair somewhat less banding and a nicer nose pattern.

It also has more readout channels for faster readout, and improved on chip circuitry for low noise readout, its basically a whole new sensor, and noticibly better. Only in camera jpegs have a resolution issue from too much default NR. Raw images are supurb.
 
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I'm begrudgingly coming round to the fact that this is the camera I have to upgrade to.

I'm currently shooting off two ancient 1D mk2's, which have done me proud, but I'm getting left behind in the tech race. They're good for the majority of stuff I shoot, but lacking in other areas, and I'm having to hire cameras to cope with the shoots where I need more than the mk2's can handle.

I was going to upgrade to the Mark 4, and maybe get a Ds Mk3 as backup, but having seen some of the high quality ISO shots (in particular Andy Rouse's owl shots), I think I'm going to can the idea of the Mk4.. My work is pretty varied, and the idea of being able to shoot at that high an ISO in certain situations is very tempting.

Still maybe get a Ds3 as backup (although I'll reserve judgement after using the 5dMk3 I'm hiring for a shoot this week).

The X looks like a phenomenal piece of kit, and considering I was going to spend £2, 800 on a Mk4, I think I'm going to have to justify the extra £1, 200.

Now then... Anyone want to buy a couple of Mamiya RB-67's with lenses etc etc etc? :)

Nick
 
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