Canon EOS 5D Mark III - Body Price At Announcement
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I see absolutely no point to upgrade to a 5D3. Especially for a $1,000+ price increase. 61-point AF system? Who cares? Who shoots with multiple points anyway? Center-point focus and recompose. That's how any serious photographer shoots anyway. Do people want their cameras to compose their shots for them too?
Leave it up to your camera to pick your focus points and you will end up lots of throw away shots.
It's just another fear-tactic designed by the marketing dept. at Canon (or any other company for that matter) into making you feel your current gear is obsolete. Even the 5D Classic is WAY more than enough (WAY WAY WAY more) for the vast majority of users. I had a 5D Classic since 2005 and JUST recently sold it for a 5D2. Although the 5D2 is great, I kind of regret the switch. I wasn't expecting a bump in image quality, I just wanted it for the video capability. The 100% increase in file size and all the software updates I had to do to support it just was a hassle.
I am glad that Canon is keeping it at 22MP. Last thing we need is a MP war with Nikon.
Leave it up to your camera to pick your focus points and you will end up lots of throw away shots.
It's just another fear-tactic designed by the marketing dept. at Canon (or any other company for that matter) into making you feel your current gear is obsolete. Even the 5D Classic is WAY more than enough (WAY WAY WAY more) for the vast majority of users. I had a 5D Classic since 2005 and JUST recently sold it for a 5D2. Although the 5D2 is great, I kind of regret the switch. I wasn't expecting a bump in image quality, I just wanted it for the video capability. The 100% increase in file size and all the software updates I had to do to support it just was a hassle.
I am glad that Canon is keeping it at 22MP. Last thing we need is a MP war with Nikon.
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Seems like quite a bit of optimism here, when the approximate $3,500 is rated CR3.
I wouldn't be surprised if Canon brings it a little closer to the D800, but doubt it will go as low as some people are hoping for. Keeping the 5DII in the lineup and dropping the price may be Canon's way of saying: "if you can't afford the latest model, we have this really good one available for $1,200 less."
I wouldn't be surprised if Canon brings it a little closer to the D800, but doubt it will go as low as some people are hoping for. Keeping the 5DII in the lineup and dropping the price may be Canon's way of saying: "if you can't afford the latest model, we have this really good one available for $1,200 less."
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LACityPhotoCom said:
I don't think you know very much about photography. Focus and recompose is not a possible in MANY situations. Have you ever shot sports? How are you going to compose your pictures if you use center point in every shot. Have you ever shot with a 1.4 or 1.2 lens? Focus and recompose is going to get you very inconsistent results and many OOF images. No one is making you upgrade. It's called technology, it will always be advancing. Some people like to have more options.
And having 61 AF points doesn't mean the camera is going to select your AF point automatically unless you tell it to. It's great for BIF. Upgrading a 4 year old camera is not a "fear-tactic designed by the marketing dept. at Canon."
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scubasteve03 said:
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I have to agree with ScubaSteve here. Using the center point to obtain focus, and then recompose the image can yield disastrous results at very wide apertures when shallow DOFs are being implemented. I was trying to find a link to the Canon tutorial video I saw on this very subject about a year or so ago. It was was a great lecture series where Rudy Winston of Canon demonstrated in his powerpoint how even the slightest re-aiming of the lens (after locking focus) can put the subject inches, or even feet, outside of the focal plane. The video was titled "A Look at the Canon Autofucus System" and was part of B&H Photo's lecture series - but it looks like it disappeared when B&H revamped their website.
Even though the video is unavailable, there are plenty of articles that address this topic:
http://improvephotography.com/216/photography-focus-recompose-compose-portrait/
http://visual-vacations.com/Photography/focus-recompose_sucks.htm
That said, I do agreed that in some instances, focusing-and-recomposing can work, but in many situations it is generally considered poor practice. Regardless, making blanket statements like "that's how any serious photographer shoots", shows you just don't know that much about photography. It also makes it difficult to take any other part of your post seriously.
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AdamJ said:
It can't get bad PR regardless of price. Preorders will overflow in a matter of minutes... even if it was $4000 body only.
All video people are salivating over this update, tired of "video" cameras being awful for video, 4x (to 100x) the price, and 5x the needed size.
Artifacts finally removed, rolling shutter reduced... This will be the best possible camera for the purposes of 99.5% of the people who need video.
The .5% will be resolved with 4k/global shutter/raw(or at least full HDMI out).
All these people have been waiting very (im)patiently for Canon to stop releasing the exact same camera - 7d (t2i, t3i, 60d). They will swarm to this. Production facilities will buy large quantities, because they're still relatively dirt cheap.
Also, I expect Chris Dodd will personally be buying up several mass shipments just to defecate on in a misguided attempt to save Hollywood.
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While I agree that $3,500 is a lot, I wouldn't be surprised if that is in fact the MSRP. Whatever bad publicity Canon gets will immediately be overshadowed by the loyal customers who will flock to buy it, regardless of price. Just think back to how tech columnists talked negatively about the iPad for essentially being a gigantic iPod Touch, and not really something revolutionary that could replace a computer. 3 years later, iPad sales are stronger than ever. While people often don't need expensive technology, they certainly want it!
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So much negativity! I just want my 5DMkIII or 5DMkII... either one and I'd be giggly as a f-ing school girl. I've been saving up for the 5DMkII, and now that I have this saved-up monies anf a MkIII could be around the corner!?!?! I even have lens for the camera that I don't own yet. Eitherway I go, I know I'll be annoyingly happy. Whether it's a 18MP, 22MP or a bazilionawesomepixels with three popup flashes- don't care. I don't have time for such negativity when there are awesome pictures to be taken! 
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LACityPhotoCom said:
Al the pros are nodding in agreement with this comment, and all the noobies are in denail... LOL
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dedrick427 said:
I will take nothing less than 3 pop up flashes ---and i want them to extend like the clip on book reading lights!
Sorry, couldn't resist!
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rumorzmonger said:
That's an interesting comment. I guess all the BIF, sports and action photographers making money out there with 7D's, 1D's etc. aren't pros. It's a certainly possible to shoot action with a 5D, but you get a lot more keepers with a better AF system.
And don't think that having a great AF system does all the work for you either. Technique is still critical. You still have to be able to pull the camera up and have the subject in the veiwfinder instantly. Sometimes you need to start wide and zoom in as you track and frame. You need to know what settings to use and when to use them. It's not as easy as many think. A few weeks ago, I stopped in La Jolla to do an interview and some guys with $10,000 lenses and bad ass bodies convinced me I had to shoot the pelicans which where in mating plumage. In 20 minutes I had a bunch of keepers, and they were uptight that I was getting so many great shots with a 7D and 70-200 2.8 IS II, while they struggled with their own rigs. 25 years of shooting helps, but so does the AF of the 7D. As a team, the camera and I pulled off some good shots. It would have been much more difficult with the 5D. Sure, I probably would have been able to make it work, but why bother? Having a 7D or better quality AF system on a full frame body would be so nice to have, which is why after having $18,000 of gear stolen, I'm seriously thinking about switching to the Nikon D800.
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For me, it's not the 61-points that are important, but the accuracy of the new system. I love The 5DmkII, but its AF is a definite weakness. It tends to hunt in low light and isn't great with objects in motion. Of course the 5DII isn't a sports or action camera, but it is one of the better low light performers. The ISO is very good, but the AF system is not on the same level. On the plus side, it's made me a wizard at manual focus in low light.
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http://improvephotography.com/216/photography-focus-recompose-compose-portrait/
Reading this article makes it sound like a mirakel to make a focused picture with the 5D mark II with its only 9 af-points.....
Reading this article makes it sound like a mirakel to make a focused picture with the 5D mark II with its only 9 af-points.....
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Absolutely. That's exactly what I do now, and it is how I have always done it. In the film days when I didn't have autofocus I used the split screen circle to focus and recompose. One focus point, (and it wasn't even a cross hair type either)
In all honesty if they made a split screen for my 40D I would never have to rely on autofocus at all But I would still upgrade to a 5DIII, subject to price, because the high iso performance should hopefully be even better etc but I wouldn't be to sad to upgrade to a 5DII.
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