Canon EOS 5DS R With the Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4 Samples

I did some off the cuff shooting handheld last night in my house with the 5DSR at 6400. It was VERY impressive. Canon's claim that it's not a high ISO camera may be so if you judge by it's comparative limit topping out at 6400 vs. some others, but 6400 is the top end I dare say MOST of us will confidently shoot at and the 5DSR does NOT disappoint. No, it's not the Sony A7S, but nothing else is. I'm very pleased with it. Hope you will be too!

Eldar said:
I had absolutely no reason to buy the 5DSR, since my current gear far outperforms my skills, but I have a very poor character and could not resist the temptation.

My initial reaction to the announcement was massive disappointment, but curiosity took over and I picked up a 5DSR yesterday. I have not had time to test it with the Zeiss glass yet, but I took a few shots on my way to work this morning, with the 24-70 f2.8L II. I am currently in pixle scrutiny mode, looking for all kinds of details, so this is not meant for anything else than that.

My thought was also, at least to some extent, that I rarely print large enough, to justify this resolution. On top of that, I am hardly a print expert. But I have just printed the attached image on my Canon Pro-1, at maximum resolution and the level of detail is simply phenomenal. So it is easy to say that a full size image, printed in A3+ format has more information than I have ever seen in an A3+ print before.

But resolution was expected. What is much more pleasing is the other quality elements. I have still just barely started using the camera, so I cannot be too conclusive, but so far it looks like a clear improvement over the 5DIII (and 1DX), at low ISO. I have so far not been above 1600, so I cannot say how good or bad it´ll be higher up.

UPDATE: When I look at the quality of the published image in sRGB, with size restrictions, it is not in the vicinity of doing the original justice!
 
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PS - Eldar, how many prints can you get off that machine with one set of ink? Keep thinking about getting one for small print runs

Eldar said:
I had absolutely no reason to buy the 5DSR, since my current gear far outperforms my skills, but I have a very poor character and could not resist the temptation.

My initial reaction to the announcement was massive disappointment, but curiosity took over and I picked up a 5DSR yesterday. I have not had time to test it with the Zeiss glass yet, but I took a few shots on my way to work this morning, with the 24-70 f2.8L II. I am currently in pixle scrutiny mode, looking for all kinds of details, so this is not meant for anything else than that.

My thought was also, at least to some extent, that I rarely print large enough, to justify this resolution. On top of that, I am hardly a print expert. But I have just printed the attached image on my Canon Pro-1, at maximum resolution and the level of detail is simply phenomenal. So it is easy to say that a full size image, printed in A3+ format has more information than I have ever seen in an A3+ print before.

But resolution was expected. What is much more pleasing is the other quality elements. I have still just barely started using the camera, so I cannot be too conclusive, but so far it looks like a clear improvement over the 5DIII (and 1DX), at low ISO. I have so far not been above 1600, so I cannot say how good or bad it´ll be higher up.

UPDATE: When I look at the quality of the published image in sRGB, with size restrictions, it is not in the vicinity of doing the original justice!
 
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PureClassA said:
PS - Eldar, how many prints can you get off that machine with one set of ink? Keep thinking about getting one for small print runs

I'm obviously not Eldar, and I have a Pro-100 (dye, not pigment), but I've found the ink cost analyses from Red River Paper to be helpful, so I'm passing along the one they did for the Pro-1: http://www.redrivercatalog.com/cost-of-inkjet-printing-canon-pro-1.html

Cheers.
 
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dilbert said:
Eldar said:
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But resolution was expected. What is much more pleasing is the other quality elements. I have still just barely started using the camera, so I cannot be too conclusive, but so far it looks like a clear improvement over the 5DIII (and 1DX), at low ISO. I have so far not been above 1600, so I cannot say how good or bad it´ll be higher up.
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The improvements in low ISO performance have been visible since raw files showed up on dpreview, so this is as expected.
I gave up the study of other people's pictures, raw or jpeg, awhile ago and decided to wait for my own. Now I have it and, compared to the expectation I had from the files I did look at, the 5DSR exceeds my expectations. And again, apart from changeable focusing screens, I am very happy (so far).

Now I'm off to Crete and hope to find some good motives there.
 
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Hello,

I was checking out the 5DS R Today. Here is an image taken with the 5DS R with a 100-400 EF II with a 1.4x III converter at 560mm at ISO 200 F8. It was imported to Lightroom and exported. The next will be a 1:1 crop.

Sincerely,

Paul
 

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Hello,

Going through the images is interesting. I always find my learning comes from sorting and editing images.

Shooting spot-on sharp is going to be a challenge for this camera. Particularly for moving subjects and hand held shots. You can't use the extra resolution if it is blurry. You can move the shutter speed up but then the depth of field means limited field of sharpness.

As expect, the camera takes more shooting skills to make use of the extra pixels. I knew this going in and used a tripod and paid extra attention to being steady in my tracking. Propellor aircraft take special efforts as the shutter speed has to be kept low to show at least some movement of the prop. This camera will be a struggle to balance the need to shoot higher for sharpness vs. slower for the prop. I may have to rethink and experiment on this.

None of this should be new to the photographer, but I do know that if I shot for online presentation I can get pretty sloppy knowing the eventual output resolution. I'm going to have to tighten up as I shot more for large prints.

I expect that the real win with the camera, for most shots, will be the massive flexibility to get multiple shots from one frame. In post production you can crop in (and in and in) and isolate many individual shots from one image and still have enough size to print at a good size.

I'm not a high ISO shooter, but when you start cropping way in the noise becomes more evident - just as it is when any other camera.
 
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PaulOnline said:
Here is the 1:1 crop...

I hope I'm doing this right... this is my first post to the site...

now that is just ridiculous detail. One of my weaknesses as a photographer is that I tend to shoot wide a lot and with one of these, I could crop and have multiple photos out of one frame. I have gotten better of the years about taking a few stops closer but there are still times....
 
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Really?!?! Really?!?! Really?!?! Had to shoot a F***ing portrait with that awesomeness of a GODnesslike gooodness?

One portrait - OK. All of them Portraits? How retarded one should be? Where are the LANDSCAPE photographers? They need sample photos too.

And I am NOT a landscape photographer....

Night shoots, Wild Life shoots I know - it sounds crazy, but let's face it - I am crazy enough to rant, because at least one human being should test all possible scenarios utilizing this LOVELY pair...
 
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massive said:
thejager said:
i wanna see some copystand work using a Coastal Optics on a metabones or similar adapter.

I have no idea what any of that means :-\

If your are serious, let me decode a bit.

1) Coastal Optics makes a specialty macro lens (understatement). Here's Roger at LensRentals take, http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/nikon/lenses/specialty/coastal-optics-uv-vis-ir-60mm-macro-for-nikon. You could probably stop now after visiting the link.
2) the lens is only available in Nikon F mount so you need some kind of adapter to mount on a Canon body
3) to get the most out of this lens you might want to use a copy stand rather than tripod or handheld.
 
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Sorry...didnt think i was being confusing... my point was that i wanted to see the 5DSr used with a very high end APO lens on a very flat and controllable surface devoid of shake etc. I just want to see the 5DSr at its max potential i guess.

In this case the Coastal Optics 60mm APO Macro, it is the best DSLR lens i have ever used (despite a few weird manageable hot spots), i do copy and technical work in UV, IR, so a true APO lens means a lot to my work, and i work on copy stands a lot as well.

As that lens is F mount only, you need a converter to get it to the 5DSr, in this case i mentioned the metabones as it has a solid reputation, though i have considered the Rayqual adapter too, as a colleague of mine has used that combination on their Canon bodies in the past.


I believe I will be picking up the 5DSr in the next month or so, though i was considering two bodies so perhaps i wait on the second until i see the Sony A7r2 in action.
 
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