Canon EOS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

[Luds34]

I must say I am disappointed if it truly is only 26 MP for the 6D Mark 2. I was expecting 28 MP and no 4K. The reason I thought 28 MP was because of the regular 6D and the 5D3 being only about 2 MP difference. Now, that spread is a lot more. 5 years waiting on a mark 2 to come out at only 26 MP is not good at all, considering the technology and options out there.

Disappointed with "only" 26MP vs. your expectation of 28MP. You are kidding, right?

Stop feeding... stop feeding!

 

[LonelyBoy]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

But the entire spectrum of excuses and apologies comes out. All the camera industry economists come to lecture me. Here's some economics for them - Canon is the biggest. Builds the most cameras, sells the most. They have the advantage of economy-of-scale to offer up better specs at lower prices than Nikon.

Chew on that apologists and pseudo-economist excuse makers. (not you ahsanford).

Yet despite the 'lectures', you still fail to understand. Sad.

Incorrect. I understand perfectly, I simply do not accept BS excuses.

Nice post btw, fails to address the fact that Canon can leverage economy of scale and is in a better position to offer more than Nikon. The pseudo-economist Canon apologists are going to have to go back to the drawing board to figure out a response to that.

So why are you not switched yet? With your beloved D750 as cheap as it is you should be able to come out ahead, but instead you'd rather bellyache about Canon. I keep asking and you keep not answering. Maybe the grass on the other side isn't as green as you're saying?

 

[rrcphoto]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

But the entire spectrum of excuses and apologies comes out. All the camera industry economists come to lecture me. Here's some economics for them - Canon is the biggest. Builds the most cameras, sells the most. They have the advantage of economy-of-scale to offer up better specs at lower prices than Nikon.

Chew on that apologists and pseudo-economist excuse makers. (not you ahsanford).

Yet despite the 'lectures', you still fail to understand. Sad.

Incorrect. I understand perfectly, I simply do not accept BS excuses.

Nice post btw, fails to address the fact that Canon can leverage economy of scale and is in a better position to offer more than Nikon. The pseudo-economist Canon apologists are going to have to go back to the drawing board to figure out a response to that.

probably not much more in the full frame market, unless you have statistics to show the full frame marketshare percentages, and if so, i"d love to see them.

economies of scale exist, yes, but exist in the lower end of the camera market - far more than up here.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

But the entire spectrum of excuses and apologies comes out. All the camera industry economists come to lecture me. Here's some economics for them - Canon is the biggest. Builds the most cameras, sells the most. They have the advantage of economy-of-scale to offer up better specs at lower prices than Nikon.

Chew on that apologists and pseudo-economist excuse makers. (not you ahsanford).

Yet despite the 'lectures', you still fail to understand. Sad.

Incorrect. I understand perfectly, I simply do not accept BS excuses.

Nice post btw, fails to address the fact that Canon can leverage economy of scale and is in a better position to offer more than Nikon. The pseudo-economist Canon apologists are going to have to go back to the drawing board to figure out a response to that.

Nikon has better specs, yet is in financial trouble....
Canon has better sales and is profitable.......

As far as economies of scale goes, Canon and Nikon sales are not far enough apart to make any real difference... Canon would need to be outselling Nikon by 5 to 1 to start seeing a measureable difference, and that just is not going to happen...

How do we explain the discontinuity between making (at least what you perceive as) better cameras, against lower sales and profits?

 

[Loswr]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

How do we explain the discontinuity between making (at least what you perceive as) better cameras, against lower sales and profits?

Consumers are stupid, gullible sheep who have been duped by Canon's genius marketeers into buying overpriced, sub-par cameras.

Wait, I said I'd stop channeling 'K'. Sorry.

 

[Don Haines]

It's about progress in 5 years and having an adequate number for consumers to remain competitive. No need for several question marks. I understood perfectly with the first one.

Interesting..... So I am just imagining how much better my current camera is than its predecessor.... I hate to think that I wasted the money to upgrade.... oh well, at least I got a spare battery out of it.....

No need for a sarcastic comment, I only offered my opinion and somewhat disappointment. It's a nice improvement, I am not arguing. I'm not the only smart consumer out there who feels similar I'm sure. Many 5d3 users were on the fence about the new 5d4 and upset about the upgrades etc. Many felt they weren't convinced it was enough to warrant an upgrade from the 5d3. It's OK to expect more and better from a manufacturer.

Enjoy your upgrade and be happy about it. If you can elaborate and add something substantial to the discussion and the limited rumors about these 6D upgrades please do. Otherwise troll someplace else.

Sorry, I should have added a preface or worded my comment a bit more clearly....

I agree with your comment..... Having 2 crop bodies that are separated by 5 years, the difference is truly striking. I can shoot three stops of ISO higher and get similar quality... AF at f8 instead of F5.6... anti-flicker (a HUGE advancement for where I shoot), from only the centre AF point being useful to 65 points, and lots more little things....

That said, when I upgrade anything, I tend to skip models as personally, I don't find there to be enough of a difference to jump every time. For example, she still uses the 5D2..... Great camera, and as nice as the 5D3 is, for us, its not worth the upgrade...... but as to the 5D4, right now we are thinking real hard on that one.....

Got a 6D at work..... will NOT get a 6D2 for work no matter what the specs are.... same logic..... yet at home, the 6D2 looks like it will become my FF camera for canoe trips....

and BTW, one of the things that Canon has gotten right is batteries..... no new battery for every model! Kudos!

 

[LonelyBoy]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

How do we explain the discontinuity between making (at least what you perceive as) better cameras, against lower sales and profits?

Consumers are stupid, gullible sheep who have been duped by Canon's genius marketeers into buying overpriced, sub-par cameras.

Wait, I said I'd stop channeling 'K'. Sorry.

Can you please channel him a little more and explain why he doesn't just buy the D750 and be done with it? For being such an awesome product it seems he'd rather talk about it than actually buy it. Which doesn't make sense, unless he's being disingenuous and doesn't think it's as good as he claims it is.

 

[The Flasher]

AA filter or no? The 6d and no AA was a pleasant surprise.

 

[AdamBotond]

As a former 6D user, I am really looking forward to see how the new sensor in the successor is going to perform. I was really happy with 6D high iso capabilities back then and I must admit I still favour the colors and DR of the 6D over my current 1D X.

 

[LonelyBoy]

AA filter or no? The 6d and no AA was a pleasant surprise.

I just started my coffee so maybe I'll regret this, but doesn't the 6D have an AA filter?

 

[BillB]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

But the entire spectrum of excuses and apologies comes out. All the camera industry economists come to lecture me. Here's some economics for them - Canon is the biggest. Builds the most cameras, sells the most. They have the advantage of economy-of-scale to offer up better specs at lower prices than Nikon.

Chew on that apologists and pseudo-economist excuse makers. (not you ahsanford).

Yet despite the 'lectures', you still fail to understand. Sad.

Incorrect. I understand perfectly, I simply do not accept BS excuses.

Nice post btw, fails to address the fact that Canon can leverage economy of scale and is in a better position to offer more than Nikon. The pseudo-economist Canon apologists are going to have to go back to the drawing board to figure out a response to that.

Nikon has better specs, yet is in financial trouble....
Canon has better sales and is profitable.......

As far as economies of scale goes, Canon and Nikon sales are not far enough apart to make any real difference... Canon would need to be outselling Nikon by 5 to 1 to start seeing a measureable difference, and that just is not going to happen...

How do we explain the discontinuity between making (at least what you perceive as) better cameras, against lower sales and profits?

Development and capital costs are a piece of the puzzle too. Even a doubling of production is going to have a big impact on per camera development and capital costs, even if decreases in per camera production costs are small. My guess is that recovery of development and capital costs has been a big part of Nikon's woes because of its lower production levels. A nasty cycle can kick in when you have to cut costs to generate income to recover front end and other overhead costs.

 

[Keith_Reeder]

I just started my coffee so maybe I'll regret this, but doesn't the 6D have an AA filter?

Pretty sure it does.

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Re: Canon Ehttp://www.canonrumors.com/OS 6D Mark II to Get New 26mp Sensor [CR3]

Incorrect. I understand perfectly

Still waiting for evidence to support this claim.

You continue to ignore the question: If Canon is failing so completely in making cameras that many people want and are happy to buy and use, how are they still the top-performing camera company in the world?

I simply do not accept BS excuses.

"BS excuses" that you can't actually provide an answer or cogent counter-argument to, I notice...

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Many 5d3 users were on the fence about the new 5d4 and upset about the upgrades etc. Many felt they weren't convinced it was enough to warrant an upgrade from the 5d3.

"Many"?

Care to cite some evidence?

 

[IglooEater]

Many 5d3 users were on the fence about the new 5d4 and upset about the upgrades etc. Many felt they weren't convinced it was enough to warrant an upgrade from the 5d3.

"Many"?

Care to cite some evidence?

Hey, I read it in the internet. It must be true.

In all seriousness. I don't understand the thinking that Canon expects users to upgrade at every iteration. It would seem more natural (to me) to compare the 5D IV with the II, and the Mark III with the Mark I. At which point the upgrade appears much more compelling. I expect current III users will find the Mark V equally compelling.

 

[Mikehit]

In all seriousness. I don't understand the thinking that Canon expects users to upgrade at every iteration.

Who said they did?

It would seem more natural (to me) to compare the 5D IV with the II, and the Mark III with the Mark I. At which point the upgrade appears much more compelling. I expect current III users will find the Mark V equally compelling.

Spec-wise I agree. But Canon have an unnerving habit of not only upgrading the specs but also tweaking the ergonomics which may be unimpressive on the spec sheet but make the whole experience much better. And for a pro that can be as important as improved technology.

 

[sanj]

It's about progress in 5 years and having an adequate number for consumers to remain competitive. No need for several question marks. I understood perfectly with the first one.

Interesting..... So I am just imagining how much better my current camera is than its predecessor.... I hate to think that I wasted the money to upgrade.... oh well, at least I got a spare battery out of it.....

;D ;D

 

[IglooEater]

In all seriousness. I don't understand the thinking that Canon expects users to upgrade at every iteration.

Who said they did?

No one. But a lot of people complain that subsequent models aren't worthy upgrades. I'm just suggesting that they aren't meant to be.

It would seem more natural (to me) to compare the 5D IV with the II, and the Mark III with the Mark I. At which point the upgrade appears much more compelling. I expect current III users will find the Mark V equally compelling.

Spec-wise I agree. But Canon have an unnerving habit of not only upgrading the specs but also tweaking the ergonomics which may be unimpressive on the spec sheet but make the whole experience much better. And for a pro that can be as important as improved technology.

+1 good point

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Who said they did?

The (very pertinent) point IglooEater is making is that the whiners on here are reacting as if they're being forced to upgrade, whether they like it or not.