Canon EOS 6D Rating by DXOMark

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<strong>From DXOMark


</strong>DXO has released their impressions of the Canon EOS 6D pretty quickly. The camera receives a sensor score 82, which is on part with most of the Canon lineup.</p>
<p><strong>From DXOMark


</strong><em>“The EOS 6D offers a well-balanced performance across all three testing metrics, doing enough to put it into 10th place overall on the sensor rankings. Given the price, this does offer very good value for money, matched only by the Nikon D600. It suggests that this new market segment could be a real hotbed of key models for the major manufacturers and is therefore one to watch carefully.”</em></p>
<p><strong>CR’s Take


</strong>I just got my hands on an EOS 6D today, so I’m not yet a good person to ask as to whether or not the camera is a winner. I do like the size and weight, I’m all about trimming weight wherever I can in my kit. Give me a week or so, then you can start asking me your questions.</p>
<p><em><strong>Canon EOS 6D for $2099 at <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892349-REG/Canon_8035b002_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0MZ8U/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0MZ8U&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.normancamera.com/index/page/product/product_id/26833/product_name/Canon+EOS+6D+Digital+Camera+%28Body+Only%29+" target="_blank">Norman</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA6D.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>Canon EOS 6D w/24-105 f/4L IS for $2699 ($200 off) at <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892354-REG/Canon_8035b009_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">B&H Photo</a> | <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0MZG2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0MZG2&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20" target="_blank">Amazon</a> | <a href="http://www.normancamera.com/index/page/product/product_id/26834/product_name/Canon+EOS+6D+Digital+Camera+with+Canon+24-105mm+f4.0L+IS+USM+AF+Lens" target="_blank">Norman</a> | <a href="http://www.adorama.com/ICA6DK.html?kbid=64393" target="_blank">Adorama</a></strong></em></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
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[hemidesign]

To be honest.. I really don't like and I Don't believe in this DXO mark website..
They have been paid by Nikon to update and posts all this fake numbers.. bunch of BS!
PISSES ME OOFFFF!!!

Many complains over the net:

http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/5d-mark-iii-d800-d4-dxomark-sucks-balls/

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/03/nikon-beat-canon.html

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/canon/304436-1dx-finally-reviewed-rated-dxomark.html

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2271640

 

[Pitbullo]

No need to take it personal, it is not a bad camera, just because the Nikons are, sensor wise, better pixel by pixel. At least on low ISO. However, the 6D (and other Canons) are the better ones at higher ISO. No big news! The DXO tests does not say which camera is better, just how the sensors perform.

 

[heptagon]

Is it just me or does the 6D sensor slightly outperform the 5D3 sensor in dynamic range and is on par in everything else? Maybe Canon started moving and can improve their sensor performance after all.

 

[Pitbullo]

It looks like the 6D is performing very well! It seems like they are polishing the current sensor tech.

 

[Rocky]

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<strong>From DXOMark



</strong>DXO has released their impressions of the Canon EOS 6D pretty quickly. The camera receives a sensor score 82, which is on part with most of the Canon lineup.</p>
<p><strong>From DXOMark



</strong><em>“The EOS 6D offers a well-balanced performance across all three testing metrics, doing enough to put it into 10th place overall on the sensor rankings. Given the price, this does offer very good value for money, matched only by the Nikon D600. It suggests that this new market segment could be a real hotbed of key models for the major manufacturers and is therefore one to watch carefully.”</em></p>
<p><strong>CR’s Take



</strong>I just got my hands on an EOS 6D today, so I’m not yet a good person to ask as to whether or not the camera is a winner. I do like the size and weight, I’m all about trimming weight wherever I can in my kit. Give me a week or so, then you can start asking me your questions.</p>
<p><em><strong>Canon EOS 6D for $2099 at <a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892349-REG/Canon_8035b002_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">B&H Photo</a> | <a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0MZ8U/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0MZ8U&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon</a> | <a href=\"http://www.normancamera.com/index/page/product/product_id/26833/product_name/Canon+EOS+6D+Digital+Camera+%28Body+Only%29+\" target=\"_blank\">Norman</a> | <a href=\"http://www.adorama.com/ICA6D.html?kbid=64393\" target=\"_blank\">Adorama</a></strong></em></p>
<p><em><strong>Canon EOS 6D w/24-105 f/4L IS for $2699 ($200 off) at <a href=\"http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892354-REG/Canon_8035b009_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296\" target=\"_blank\">B&H Photo</a> | <a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B0MZG2/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009B0MZG2&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon</a> | <a href=\"http://www.normancamera.com/index/page/product/product_id/26834/product_name/Canon+EOS+6D+Digital+Camera+with+Canon+24-105mm+f4.0L+IS+USM+AF+Lens\" target=\"_blank\">Norman</a> | <a href=\"http://www.adorama.com/ICA6DK.html?kbid=64393\" target=\"_blank\">Adorama</a></strong></em></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>
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Please write a review about it. you have done agood job in the past. Thansk you.

 

[Dylan777]

My 2cents:
Besides lacking of AF points, chassis is on smaller size, slower fps....I do think this is a good entry level FF camera for those looking for better ISO and clearner images. It fits well for landscape/portrait shooters.

 

[joshmurrah]

To be honest.. I really don't like and I Don't believe in this DXO mark website..
They have been paid by Nikon to update and posts all this fake numbers.. bunch of BS!
PISSES ME OOFFFF!!!

Many complains over the net:

http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/5d-mark-iii-d800-d4-dxomark-sucks-balls/

I chuckled when I realized that you included a parody site in your URLs. Like you, I don't really use DXOMark in my camera shopping / comparisons since their ratings are... odd... but it was still funny.

 

[jocau]

Nice to see that the 6D has a better DR score than the much more expensive 5D3 and 1Dx. Weakest point of the 6D is its AF system. But then again, people could shoot sports back in the days when cameras were manual focus only. Makes me wonder if we have become noobs because we need a great AF system (e.g. 5D3) to shoot sports nowadays...

 

[infared]

DxOMark?...rating?...who cares...can we get a rating from a source that matters? ;D

 

[hmmm]

Remember the parody videos on youtube for Hitler learns that the 7D will be shipping late, etc.?

It would make a good parody to see him ranting and raving about the 11 point AF and the dxomark scores... and then at the end telling his generals... OK... just get me a 6D now!!! At least it doesn't have all those oil spots...

 

[heptagon]

Is it just me or does the 6D sensor slightly outperform the 5D3 sensor in dynamic range and is on par in everything else? Maybe Canon started moving and can improve their sensor performance after all.

yes they can but it cost, they can shorten the analog signal way, more readout points/ADC .

They could surely get rid of the adjustable preamplifier and improve noise/DR performance at low ISO. High ISO would suffer but that doesn't matter in the studio.

 

[seta666]

I am fed up of all this people that say DXOmark results are fake, normally these tend to be Canon trolls.

Do yourself a favour; go to dpreview and download the raws from D600, D800, 5D mkIII and 6D (if available)

Then you can process those files yourself as I did and you will se the huge difference in DR, specially at base ISO

here http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8038/7905600204_90e8ededef_o.jpg you can see 100% crops of 6 cameras at iso 100 scaled to 25mpx (so they all have same size)

first row shows the original 100% crops and the second row shows same area with +4EV exposure

In my opinion the ranking would be:
1º C D800 2º A Pentax K5 3º F Sony NEX-5N 4º D Canon 5D mkIII 5º E 5D mkII 6º B Canon 60D

This test only shows DR at base ISO, and it proves DXOmark is right

By the way, I own a EOS 5DmkII and before that an EOS 5D, EOS 40D and EOS 1000D.
My second body now is an APS-C Sony NEX 5N as Canon APS-C sensors are a big piece of noisy crap

Regards
Javier

 

[Ricku]

^^^ This man speaks the truth.

The problem is not "faked ratings" by DXO. The problem is Canon's old sensor tech. I have used both the D800 and the 5D3. The DR and post processing abilities with the D800 RAW-files are nothing but amazing!

The 5D3, not so much. :-\

The 6D might be a tad better than the 5D3, but it is still far from good enough if you consider what Nikon (the main competitor) has.

However, I still believe that Canon will catch up.. Some day..

 

[Loswr]

I am fed up of all this people that say DXOmark results are fake, normally these tend to be Canon trolls.

There are a very, very tiny number of people who claim the DxOMark data are fake, and they are marginal and obvious trolls. But there is a rather large group of people who understand that DxOMark's Sensor Scores (note: Scores, not measurements) are not a good measure of overall sensor performance, and are not universally applicable to all shooting situations. Some people care about things other than DR at base ISO.

I am fed up with all the people who think the only thing inside that magnesium alloy or polycarbonate shell is a CMOS image sensor, and that DxOMark Scores are the sole determinant of camera performance. Normally those tend to be Nikon trolls.

 

[jocau]

If you have to raise your exposure by 4 stops afterwards, you are not 'very good' at nailing the exposure... Then again, it's nice to be able to do that without introducing a lot of noise.

 

[Ricku]

If you have to raise your exposure by 4 stops afterwards, you are not 'very good' at nailing the exposure... Then again, it's nice to be able to do that without introducing a lot of noise.

Wow! Another clueless self proclaimed expert, making a fool out of himself with the "proper exposure-comment".

Unbelievable! That's all I have to say.

 

[jocau]

If you have to raise your exposure by 4 stops afterwards, you are not 'very good' at nailing the exposure... Then again, it's nice to be able to do that without introducing a lot of noise.

Wow! Another clueless self proclaimed expert, making a fool out of himself with the "proper exposure-comment".

Unbelievable! That's all I have to say.

I'm no expert at all, but I never ever had to go past +2EV. Probably because I'm not a landscape shooter. I'm also a person who thinks that shadows need to stay true to their nature i.e. being dark and not revealing a lot of detail.

 

[seta666]

@ neuroanatomists: You are right, there is lots of things that make a camera, but DXOmark only reviews sensors and this is what I am talking about here. In film days people would choose to use Kodachrome, velvia or whichever film they would like. Todays film are sensors, and Sony sensors (nikon, pentax even olympus now) are the best

I never saw anyone at Dxomark saying canon cameras are bad, they only talk about sensors and what they say is that canon sensor technology has a problem at base ISO. At high ISO all this cameras are about the same (I mean the full frame cameras, 5D mkII, 5D mkIII and D800) but at base ISO the difference in my opinion is huge

In my opinion Canon makes very good cameras and lenses, but very bad sensors

@jocau: One of the only advantages film still has over Digital sensors is Latitude (aka DR), today Sony sensors offer a very high latitude (still a bit far from best film results). I remember seeing an example of almost 20EV film shot (Backlight shot with shadow recovery). One advantage of film also is that DR is high even at high ISO, with digital at high ISOs DR tends to be low

Resolution wise and for High ISO film has been surpased by digital long ago.

Some scenes may need 7EV DR and some others may need 14+ EV, so high DR capabities are always very wellcome. As an example I can asure you that the blacks I get from my 5D mkII have no texture information at all, nothing I can extract from them


I am a macro photographer (working from 1:1 to 100:1); I work with focus stacking technique on tripod. Until now the only cameras I could use were Canon as they were the only cameras offering EFSC (Electronic first shutter curtain), a very important feature in macro photography. Now also the Sony NEX cameras offer this feature, also the nikon 1 system and panasonic G5 so I am not stuck with Canon anymore

Af all the systems you can get today with EFSC sony nex offers the best base ISO with good DR, low noise and good colours I would qualify NEX 5N output image quality between EOS 5D and EOS 5d mkII with better DR than both but slightly lower resolution than EOS 5D mkII

Every photographer has different priorities and my priorities are as folows:

1- EFSC Very important for working with continious light in macro
2- Good base ISO Working on tripod I normally use ISO 100
3- EF compatibility You can use EF lenses on NEX cameras via adapter, like the MP-E

AF, video, continious shotting, viewfinder, etc are all secondary to my needs but I understand a sports, landscape, wedding, fashion, etc.. photographer will have completely different needs than I do.

 

[Botts]

Nice to see that the 6D has a better DR score than the much more expensive 5D3 and 1Dx. Weakest point of the 6D is its AF system. But then again, people could shoot sports back in the days when cameras were manual focus only. Makes me wonder if we have become noobs because we need a great AF system (e.g. 5D3) to shoot sports nowadays...

I think the quantity of great sport shots has increased greatly over the manual focus AF days. I would imagine in the olden days, people shot with relatively smaller apertures, and focused on the line of scrimmage. I just looked back on Google to find photos from Super Bowls of old, and it appears that almost all of the images were taken of players near the line. I would think the other shots were taken by focusing on a yard line for example, and waiting for the player to enter the zone of sharp focus, then shoot.

In this sense, I would think that having AF greatly improves the variety of sport shots.

I am fed up with all the people who think the only thing inside that magnesium alloy or polycarbonate shell is a CMOS image sensor, and that DxOMark Scores are the sole determinant of camera performance. Normally those tend to be Nikon trolls.

Agreed. AF, FPS continuous, video options matter greatly to different real-world photographers.

You could give an NFL sideline photographer a D800 with it's super sensor, or a 1D3. The D800 may have a better sensor, but that NFL photographer would certainly notice the 4 FPS difference (w/grip) or 6 FPS difference (w/o grip).

A starting-out wedding videographer could choose between the 5D2/6D or D600, the D600 may have a technically better sensor, but not having aperture control in video would be a dealbreaker for the D600.

Alternatively, a landscape or studio shooter, may prefer the D800 to the Canon's