Wouldn't I just love to have a an APS-C version of my 1D X. Same size, same battery, same control layout, same number of pixels and same image quality. I've dreamed of this camera. Canon could build one if they had a mind to......
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unfocused said:Frankly, the relatively low pricing of the 70D should give some reassurance that the 7DII will likely come in comfortably under $2,000
unfocused said:Krob78 said:The 7d came in substantially less than a new 5d2 came in at, with the "newer" technology. Why can't a 7D2, having some of the same technology and some "newer" technology come in substantially less than the 5d3?
Agreed.
Too often, people generalize about Canon pricing based on one example – the higher cost of the 5DIII in comparison to the D800. But, that was an anomaly. Canon and Nikon traditionally price their comparable models at nearly identical price points.
They do so because that's what the market demands. A $2,500 7DII would be hard-pressed to compete against a $1,800 D400.
Why didn't the 5DIII follow that pattern?
I have always argued that Canon set a $500 premium with the 5DIII because the 5DIII was much more targeted to specific buyers than the D800. The 5DIII with its high ISO performance is a must-have tool for photographers in a highly competitive field – weddings and events (which also happens to be about the only sizeable professional field left). Canon knew they could charge a premium because their target audience needs the competitive edge that the clean high ISOs gives them.
The D800 sacrificed high-ISO performance for high resolution. Unfortunately, there simply isn't a large professional base of photographers who gain any competitive edge from a high resolution sensor (emphasis on "large" professional base). It's a nice feature and gives some bragging rights to a company that has been perceived as being behind the curve on resolution for several years. That's not to say that some photographers don't need high resolution, it's just that the target audience is much smaller and the competitive advantages to be gained from the high resolution are much less significant.
I don't understand why people always point to the 5DIII, which was an exception, when every other DSLR Canon makes fits nicely within the rule of consistent pricing with their competitors. Frankly, the relatively low pricing of the 70D should give some reassurance that the 7DII will likely come in comfortably under $2,000
jrista said:You are assuming Canon will leave the 7D II in the same target demographic bucket as the 7D.
I'd point to the various statements Canon has made about how they want to do something "special" with the 7D II.
x-vision said:Completely agree 8)unfocused said:Frankly, the relatively low pricing of the 70D should give some reassurance that the 7DII will likely come in comfortably under $2,000
x-vision said:There's no reason to believe that the 7DII product positioning will change compared to that of the current 7D.
x-vision said:To put it another way: if the 7DII is the 1DIV successor, what will be the 7D successor? This is a rhetorical question 8).
CTJohn said:If the 70D is ready for shipment by September, I can't imagine a lot of 7D's will be sold thereafter.
I think the D800 is targeted at trollsunfocused said:Seriously, I think we are saying the same thing. 5DIII targeted to a professional market to fit a specific need. D800
targeted to...whom? I've never been sure.
Sporgon said:unfocused said:Sporgon said:I disagree here...
I disagree that you disagree.
Seriously, I think we are saying the same thing. 5DIII targeted to a professional market to fit a specific need. D800 targeted to...whom? I've never been sure.
The 5DIII may be $500 more camera, but that's because it has features that make it worth that to a specific market.
Agreed
I think the 7Dii will follow the same path. Many sports 'pros' use the 7D as a much more affordable 1D -whatever. My guess is the next one will be basically an APS-c 1Dx.
How great would that be?? A brand new Canon 7Dx! I think I'll preorder mine tonight! 8)My guess is the next one will be basically an APS-c 1Dx.