Canon EOS 7D Mark II Rumors Surface [CR1]

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<strong>A new EOS 7D Mark II mention


</strong>A new EOS 7D Mark II is rumored to be announced some time in January, 2013. The camera would take the place of the  7D and 60D.</p>
<p>Specs are minimal, as should be expected. However, it should have a 20+ megapixel sensor and the ability to shoot 10fps. The frame rate is a “targeted spec” for the camera.</p>
<p>I think we’ll see the APS-C market slow down a bit, now that the D600 and EOS 6D are changing the pricing structure for consumer camera bodies.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_7dmk2.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</p>
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The performance of the new sensor: that is the key to whether or not I'll be interested.

The technology that gets announced in the large-MP FF later this month may give us an idea of what to expect in the new 7D mkII sensor.
 
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From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.
 
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KT said:
From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

To my eyes, it seems they need some kind of 'pro' body that can replace APS-H to some extent for the photographers that need the extra 'reach' the APS-C/H can give while still having pretty good quality image and AF. I doubt it'll be 1D level of weather-sealing/body type, but 5d3 level of weather-sealing? I could see that. And even if they keep the IQ and ISO performance the same or maybe even slight better, these things will probably still fly off the shelves. Especially if they update the AF some.
 
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KT said:
From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

Unfortunately I must agree with you ... :-\ :-\
 
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I this doesn't mean: Add 1 7D and a 60D. And a cup of failure, weaken the build, and add a pinch of useless consumer features. Shake well, and serve with a nice side of significant price increase.

What I hope it does mean is:
Improved weather sealing and build.
Improved noise levels.
The bonus fps is acceptable, but hopefully for good, and not for evil.
Improved AF

That would be a recipe I would pay I might for. Sadly, the might Canon is thinking of is likely more mighty than my might... :'( But, that is what God gave us credit cards for...
 
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oh great so the 7D Mk2 will have the 60D autofocus (all 11 cross type of course) a full plastic body, 3" touch and swivel screen, wifi for facebook uploads, GPS, 1/160s sync speed and a 93% viewfinder.

the 20.1 MP sensor will have the decreased DR and noise performance we know from the 650D.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=9994.0

but it will have a slow hybrid AF.. yipeeehhh.



only one SD card slot, but a popup flash.

and for a mere 1799$ it is yours......
 
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If the 7D II will have the hybrid AF more or less like the 650D while taking video and better IQ under the ISO 12800 or better jet 25600 with not nesseccery more than 18mp sensor and wireless built-in it will sell like hot bread sonday morning and Canon should be happy. And we know that all that counts !
And if they (Canon) puts in good weather sealing, GPS, veri-angel touch screen and more, maybe the costumers also will be happy. ;D
 
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KT said:
From the sound of it, I'm afraid they put all their eggs in the MP/FPS numbers. I mean, after all the high ISO performance was never a selling point in the original 7D, it was always the 18 MP/8 FPS that sold the 7D for years. I don't think they are about to change that formula now. That means anyone interested in low noise should either consider a 5D Mark III or even the 6D but don't count on the 7D mark II to fill that void.

While I'd love to see better DR in a new 7D, I must agree with this sentiment as well.

I own both a 5dm3 and the 7D, and the cameras serve very different purposes for me.

And let's face it, given Canon's recent pricing strategy, if they announced a 7D with +2fps, +2MP, 5Dm3 style DR, and even the same AF system it has now, it would likely be upwards of the $1,700 it currently costs.

I'm hoping that if the 7Dm2 replaces the 60D, that will keep it's price point below $2,000. I'd love to see better DR, but if Canon gets too crazy in that regard they risk eroding the sales of the FF lineup.

But I still think this camera is a ways off. AF is still the second best in Canon's line (5Dm3 and 1DX at #1), and the FPS is also #2 (1DX). There's still not a ton of room for improvement that would warrant people such as myself to upgrade while keeping the price low.

My guess is announcement in third quarter of 2013... maybe even later.
 
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The 10fps is as expected moving from Digic4 to Digic5 processors, that plus a modest bump in resolution and slightly better ISO/Noise/DR would be welcome, as long as we get 2 x memory card slots (1 x CF + 1 x SDXC) and GPS/WiFi as standard (the latter negates the need for an articulated screen). The current AF system is fine. If Canon do that and price it at $2k then I'll sell my 7D and buy a 7D2, in other words; I'd pay another 500 for those upgrades.
 
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DB said:
If Canon do that and price it at $2k then I'll sell my 7D and buy a 7D2, in other words; I'd pay another 500 for those upgrades.

Agreed. But if the camera is over the $2,000 mark, there had better be some REALLY nice features to justify the price to upgrade. And I'm not talking about GPS, articulating screen, or touch screen. In fact, I'd pay money NOT to have the last two "features" on a prosumer SLR.
 
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the WFT-E5 for Canon 7D is €699 (that's almost $1,000) where I live, so I'll take WiFi included thanks. And then shoot wireless remote using my Manfrotto tripod + iPhone, with full LiveView and full ISO/Av/Tv control as well as image playback => all from a distance
 
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I'm afraid it will have a lot of more or less useful features but not much better IQ.
We should expect 2 digics, android & ios support, gps, radio remote flash, touchscreen, built-in flash, 3-6 MP more and 1/4 - 1/2 stop better ISO performance with the same DR. AF better than 5d3, maybe even better than 1dx. It could also be strong in video as 1dx. Looking at similarities between 1dx and 1dc, maybe this time the "C" brother of this new 7d2 could be some high fps video camera (1920p @60, 720p @120)?
Priced at 2499$-2999$ depending on video features.
 
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This is what will get my check book out:
1. Low noise at low ISO, high ISO capable sensor
2. Same or higher frame rate
3. Same or higher MP- but only if point 1 is satisfied
4. Two CF card slots
5. Same or better AF (5DIII level?)
6. Same or better build quality
This is not too much to ask, and given the rumors of a brand new sensor and the 46MP FF, I am guessing they are more than expected.
Besides, it is Canon's fault that I am asking for all this to upgrade- it is they who built the awesome 7D!
I am guessing Canon will also include Wi-fi, maybe even GPS, and some other doo-dads in order to lure unsure buyers, curb perpetual whiners (why didn't they add this if they have it in 6D), and increase the MSRP- but I don't care about those.
 
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