Given the knowledge base on this forum and the complete lack of mention of ML running on the R5 or other R-series bodies by anyone but you, and the fact that nothing obvious comes up on Google and certainly there are no builds for the R5 (or any other R camera) available to download from ML, I'm not just skeptical...I flat out don't believe you. I'd be happy to be shown to be wrong on this, but I'm not going to hold my breath and in the meantime your credibility will remain in the toilet.
Go back and read what I said which is that ML is the best chance we've got of finding out what the capabilities are of the DIGIC X in different cameas because Canon obscure or don't provide the details. If ML can't run on DIGIC X then we're all mushrooms with respect to the capabilities of cameras with DIGIC X SOC.
The original statement to which you responded was, “It is claimed on one video from a Canon person that the R5 has an earlier version of the Digic X and it has been proposed that it doesn't have necessary features on it.”
Something stated on video/podcast by a Canon rep is verifiable. You do realize that, don't you? I haven’t done so,
How?How do you verify that DIGIC X on the R5 is different to DIGIC X on the R7? How does anyone verify some arm waving by Canon? We have to assume they're being honest for no other reason than it benefits them from doing so.
However, the second part of that statement, the proposal that features in the R7 were not implemented in the R5 because of comparatively less processor power, is not independently verifiable (unless and until Canon provides granular details, something else I won't hold my breath waiting for). Why do you persist in insisting that must be the reason?
Why do I insist that that be the reason? Because it is the only lead we've got from Canon that aligns with what's transpired.
Yes, there are other reasons such as:
- no budget to backport the feature
- not enough resources
- not enough desire from photographers
....
Note that I haven't included anything related to marketing or product advantages - that's because I would consider such arguments to be conspiracy based and it doesn't reflect well on Canon from a PR perspective.
Most likely some features in each camera are tied to the development and release of hardware. Some new features will be candidaes for being backported to earlier camera models but it stands to reason that if newer features make use of newer hardware features (be it speed or otherwise) then that stops it being a candidate for such activity.
The hardware not being compatible is what I'd call the best fit for Occam's Razor.
It seems your position is that the R5 does not have OVF simulation because its version of Digic X can't handle it. You then provided a link that concludes the main difference with OVF simulation is the application of a different gamma curve.
Yes, I thought that might be of educational value to the discussion about why EVFs are considered to be a problem by some.
There's already a gamma curve applied in the EVF of the R5, and that gamma curve can be easily changed by setting a different Picture Style. It seems very unlikely that a lack of Digic X capability is the reason OVF Sim has not been retroactively added to the R5. In fact,
people were using custom-edited picture styles on the R5, with curves that attempted to simulate the greater DR of an OVF, before Canon even brought OVF simulation to the R3.
Custom picture styles have been a thing since the beginning as a means to get a better representation of what the sensor sees. There's nothing new here. Is there more to OVF simulation than just a different gamma curve? We don't know because we don't know how it is implemented. We don't even know how the gamma curve for the EVF is implemented. All of this lack of knowledge stems from DIGIC X being a black box.
Regardless, this discussion has gone the way most of them go when I end up in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Had a quick look back at your previous posts, which reminded me that I've been engaging with someone who
can't do simple math and said that
Canon leads the market because of purchases by communists and terrorists. When I said above that your credibility was in the toilet, I was wrong. Your credibility needs a serious sewage back flow to make it as high as the toilet.
If you want to insist my credibility is in the sewer then I'm going to insist that you're a cyber/Internet bully. There's absolutely no reason to make (and keep making) personal attacks but you do, time and time again. Other people can comment on (or highlight) my mistakes without making insulting comments, why can't you? That's a rhetorical question, if you can't tell.