Canon EOS R5 Mark II Images & Specifications

Well duh, even the most expensive medium format cameras for $50.000 do not capture more than 14-bit color range.
Phase One IQ4 has 13.33 stops according to Photonstophotos. The EOS R5 is still one of the top performing full frame cameras regarding dynamic range, better than Sony A1 and Nikon Z9. Even if its DR was improved by a full stop, it would still not be more colors than a 14-bit file can handle.
I said color range, not dynamic range. Not the same thing
 
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You've now proven multiple times you have no clue what you're even talking about.
Your eyes can just differentiate between 1 million colors, that's not even 8 bit (=16 mio colors).

It depends what source you use on Google i guess...
Anyways, if i look at hasselblad files or gfx, there's more color data available to play with. It's not just about what my eyes can see.
Another thing, hasselblad colors are so pleasing . I wonder if Canon or other fullframe brands will ever achieve this.
 
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In the R3 viewfinder you can see what focal length you have at the moment. Very useful with zoom-lenses like the RF 200-800 mm, where you might want to stop at 600-700mm when possible, to get the maximun sharpness out of the lens .
Does anyone of you know if this has been implemented in the R5 Mark II ?
 
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In the R3 viewfinder you can see what focal length you have at the moment. Very useful with zoom-lenses like the RF 200-800 mm, where you might want to stop at 600-700mm when possible, to get the maximun sharpness out of the lens .
Does anyone of you know if this has been implemented in the R5 Mark II ?
My R6 Mk II does this, so I would assume the R5 Mk II does the same.
 
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I am pretty excited about the AF in this camera. I actually ordered one on the afternoon of the 17th. I am told I am #41 on the list at the Camera Store here in Calgary(Support Your local Dealer wherever You are). I hope I see one in August, but I will not hold my breath. BTW....I am the cause of the short supply, because I ordered one.
 
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There's no need for 16 bit RAW when the sensor just captures 12 bit of dynamic range. Many people seem to not understand this. If you buy a 12 inch pizza you don't need a 16 inch box. A 14 inch box will deliver the same pizza.

Bits do not necessarily equate to stops on a 1:1 basis. A lot of people don't understand this any more than they didn't understand each zone in Ansell Adams' zone system did not have to be exactly one stop apart. What Adams did is take high dynamic range scenes that film could capture (up to 14 stops with some of the films he used) and print them on papers that were only capable of 6-7-8 stops of dynamic range by compressing each zone, which was more than one stop away from the center of each adjacent zone on the negative, into less than a single stop per zone in the print.

One can encode a wide dynamic range with fewer bits, but that causes banding, especially when one converts linear response to logarithmic curves. You can take a twelve stop scene and digitize it using only a single bit. Everything above an arbitrary brightness is "1", everything below it is "0". Yes, that's a bit extreme (pun intended).

On the other hand, one can digitize a narrower dynamic range of, say, 12 stops using 16-bits and get finer gradations between each step. This can be very helpful when manipulating curves, which effectively "stretch" part of the range while "compressing" other parts of the range.

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There's no need for 16 bit RAW when the sensor just captures 12 bit of dynamic range. Many people seem to not understand this. If you buy a 12 inch pizza you don't need a 16 inch box. A 14 inch box will deliver the same pizza.

But you can cut a 12-inch pizza into 6 slices, 8 slices, or 12 slices. That's what you effectively do with DAC, you're choosing how wide the range of analog electrical signal equals one step when digitized.

The idea that one stop must equal 1 bit is woefully misinformed. 8-bits isn't eight steps, it's 256 steps. 12-bits isn't 12 steps, it's 4,096 steps. 14-bits isn't 14 steps, it's 16,384 steps.
 
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"With all of the enhancements to the new EOS R5 Mark II, it requires a little more power than the previous EOS Mirrorless cameras, and therefore ships with a new, higher amperage battery, the LP-E6P.This battery is the same size and shape of previous LP batteries, but is easily distinguished from older models by featuring a white stripe and white Canon logo.This new battery can be used in older Canon mirrorless and even DSLR cameras, but will require a camera firmware update to do so."

It's interesting to hear about this new battery, I wonder which RF and DSLRs will get the firmware update to support it?

I'm wondering what else Canon will screw up with this firmware update. Less compatibility with third party batteries is almost a certainty. A few years ago they pulled that stunt and accidentally made older OEM Canon LP-E6 batteries appear to be "non-genuine" in the camera with which they came packaged.
 
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The EXACT SAME image processor even without the new coprocessor can handle 8K oversampled 4K60p in the R5C which was released YEARS ago.

There is NO technical reason that could explain this. Canon seemingly wants to limit the R5 Mark II artificially. Maybe to leave room for another camera like the R5C Mark II to have "8K oversampled 4K60p" as an EXCLUSIVE feature.

Really disappointing...

The new coprocessor doesn't do any output image processing. It's dedicated to things such as AF, metering, etc. so the DiG!C X processor can be dedicated to processing only the image output.
 
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Well duh, even the most expensive medium format cameras for $50.000 do not capture more than 14-bit color range.
Phase One IQ4 has 13.33 stops according to Photonstophotos. The EOS R5 is still one of the top performing full frame cameras regarding dynamic range, better than Sony A1 and Nikon Z9. Even if its DR was improved by a full stop, it would still not be more colors than a 14-bit file can handle.

Bits do not necessarily equate to stops. This is a common misconception.

DR is the difference between the brightest value that can be recorded and the lowest value that remains above the noise floor.
Bit depth is how large or small the steps between those two extremes are.

DR is the size of the pizza, bit depth is how many slices you cut the pizza.
 
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The new coprocessor doesn't do any output image processing. It's dedicated to things such as AF, metering, etc. so the DiG!C X processor can be dedicated to processing only the image output.
Yes. This proves my point that the R5 Mark II should be able to record 8K oversampled 4K60p just like the R5C has done for years!
But Canon artificially limits the R5 Mark II and cut 8K oversampled 4K60p after initially promoting oversampled 4K at 60fps on their official website. Probably to leave it as an exclusive feature for the R5C. Come on Canon, give us 8K oversampled 4K60p in the R5 Mark II with a firmware update, PLEASE!
 
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Release price in China RMB 26,999,Approximately $3,720

Yes. This proves my point that the R5 Mark II should be able to record 8K oversampled 4K60p just like the R5C has done for years!
But Canon artificially limits the R5 Mark II and cut 8K oversampled 4K60p after initially promoting oversampled 4K at 60fps on their official website. Probably to leave it as an exclusive feature for the R5C. Come on Canon, give us 8K oversampled 4K60p in the R5 Mark II with a firmware update, PLEASE!

You can already get 8K oversampled 4K60p from Canon. Just not with the R5 Mark II. If you want a more Cinema oriented hybrid, buy the R5C.
 
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You can already get 8K oversampled 4K60p from Canon. Just not with the R5 Mark II. If you want a more Cinema oriented hybrid, buy the R5C.
Their newest R5 Mark II should at least match everything their older R5C was capable of. The R5C doesn't work for me as it doesn't let you record 8K60p without an external power source. The R5 Mark II can do that but they cut something else instead. Canon gave us 8K oversampled 4K60p and then took it from us again. Cutting features from your newest flagship camera to leave them as exclusive features on an older camera even though their new camera would technically be capable of it shows that they only care about their balance sheet and not about their customers. Very underwhelming. It's not too late to fix this by bringing 8K oversampled 4K60p to the R5 Mark II with a firmware update though.
 
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