Canon Officially Announces the EOS 6D Mark II

curby said:
Ouch, I didn't get the 6D mostly because of the AF situation. Center point low light sensitivity was great, but coverage (both density and spread) were quite limited.

Well, they solved the density issue ... and called it a day.

Yeah, that AF spread isn't any better than the 11 point AF of the original. One review, (I think it was DPReview) said that they used the same module from the 80D. It may be fine on the 80D, but it is way to small on this camera.
 
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Of course wider AF spread would be nice but look at the 1DX2 where they tried hard and it's not much wider. That's because of physical limitations. However, to say that all these cross points and F8 capability is not an improvement and useful is a little dense considering all but the center are non-cross and not great in the 6D.

If you liked the 6D, and I did, then this is a major improvement in many areas and it's most welcome and it'll be a fine camera. Four years with the 6D and I did maybe 1 hour of video. Oh, but if it was 4K I'd do lots - sadly probably not, so why sweat it. Many like me simply don't shoot much video and Canon knows it.

Jack
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Of course wider AF spread would be nice but look at the 1DX2 where they tried hard and it's not much wider. That's because of physical limitations. However, to say that all these cross points and F8 capability is not an improvement and useful is a little dense considering all but the center are non-cross and not great in the 6D.

If you liked the 6D, and I did, then this is a major improvement in many areas and it's most welcome and it'll be a fine camera. Four years with the 6D and I did maybe 1 hour of video. Oh, but if it was 4K I'd do lots - sadly probably not, so why sweat it. Many like me simply don't shoot much video and Canon knows it.

Jack

I agree with you Jack. I guess I am spoiled by the AF in my 7D II. With it I can put the focus point almost anywhere I want it.

Brian

PS. I did already preorder one though.
 
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Keen to hear about the iq, dynamic range and most importantly, the high iso. One early review gave the impression that it was behind the 5dmk4 in DR at least, any other info around?
 
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I'm interested in the spread of the AF points. From the current videos, it looks like they are all clumped in the middle. Is anyone able to do an overlay of the original 6D AF grid and the new Mk2? I don't do much sports so tracking isn't important but I do more portraits with f1.4 so ideally need AF points spread out.
 
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MintChocs said:
I'm interested in the spread of the AF points. From the current videos, it looks like they are all clumped in the middle. Is anyone able to do an overlay of the original 6D AF grid and the new Mk2? I don't do much sports so tracking isn't important but I do more portraits with f1.4 so ideally need AF points spread out.

Same here, i shoot mostly vertical portraits, and 90% of my shots are done with the 135 f2 L at full aperture...with the 6D the laterlal point is bad in normal light, and impossibile to use in backlight (with the light/sun behind the model's head), so i have to use central point and than recompose...but at short focus distance, recomposing often switch the focal plane and if i focussed eyes, thay are no more in focus while i take pictures.

The new 45 AF point are gorgeous, but the spread is very bad, as i have no way to directly focus in the eye in a vertical portrait because there isn't any lateral ficus point, so i still need to use point in the middle and recompose...i was ready to preorder, but as soon as i saw that, i just stopped, now i want to read some review before, how this compact spread works in the field...i also want to see some dynamic range comparison, if this is not WAY better than the 6D/5DmkIII, and nearly on par with mkIV (and because of newer sensor and better image processor i feel Canon shuld have get an even better result than mkIV...), maybe this will really be the time when i sell all the lenses and switch to Nikon after nearly 20 years of Canon... :'(
 
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MintChocs said:
I'm interested in the spread of the AF points. From the current videos, it looks like they are all clumped in the middle. Is anyone able to do an overlay of the original 6D AF grid and the new Mk2? I don't do much sports so tracking isn't important but I do more portraits with f1.4 so ideally need AF points spread out.

Looks like the same or a tiny bit less. 6D viewfinder squares are known to be visually less than underlying sensors.
 

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4D said:
$A2548 here in Australia at Digidirect, which is actually cheaper than the US.

It should be $A2630 at current exchange:

$1,999 in the US - and it's £1,999 in the UK! I appreciate the pound's been going to hell in a handcart for the last 12 months, but it's not at parity with the dollar yet - it's almost $1.30 today. What's Canon got against Britain?
 
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MintChocs said:
I'm interested in the spread of the AF points. From the current videos, it looks like they are all clumped in the middle. Is anyone able to do an overlay of the original 6D AF grid and the new Mk2? I don't do much sports so tracking isn't important but I do more portraits with f1.4 so ideally need AF points spread out.

Almost all fullframe DSLRs have pretty clumped AF points.





Deva said:
$1,999 in the US - and it's £1,999 in the UK! I appreciate the pound's been going to hell in a handcart for the last 12 months, but it's not at parity with the dollar yet - it's almost $1.30 today. What's Canon got against Britain?

As always, US prices don't include sales tax (if any - depends on state). UK has 20% VAT.





ctrl said:
"27 AF points support f8" This was a pleasant surprise.

Remember that it's most likely the exact same situation as with the other cameras using the 45-pt system: only the center point is f/8 with "all" lenses, and 27 points are f/8 with exactly two lens/extender combinations.





quattie said:
Will this new Canon 6D Mark II have the Canon EOS iTR AF technology? Would be a waste of the 45 AF points if it doesn't.

Most likely it has the same "color tracking" feature as the 80D. With the 7560px metering sensor, it can't do full iTR like the cameras with 100000+px sensors.
 
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The situation with the AF points gets even worse, when you shoot horizontally. With the spread they selected, I can barely see any point in choosing a particular one. You will have to use focus and recompose often, if you want to focus someone's face.

You know, for me, it is not all about the money. We can often hear - you want pro? Go for the 5DIV then. But the feature set is not easily switchable. Since the old (my first digital) days of Canon G2, I was wishing for the tilty-flippy to come the DSLRs. Shooting at concerts, I always have to smile, when so called pros shoot blindly above their heads.

But this time, for the first time ever, I started to think to save more, pay more, and get 5DIV instead. Surely will wait for the reviews of the new 6D2 first.

So - what could I potentially miss with the 5DIV, apart from the tilty-flippy LCD? I do remember some talks about the entry level FF having better noise performance, as it comes xy months later than its profi counterpart. Or asking in another way - is it worth paying more for the 5DIV, or would IQ of 5DIII be still better, than the new 6D2? 5DIII does not have DPAF, right? Not a video guy, but sometimes, during weddings, ppl ask if we would do some short videos. And I like DPAF from our 70D.

Tough choices indeed :-)
 
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Australia has 10% GST so bang goes that argument.

Sharlin said:
MintChocs said:
I'm interested in the spread of the AF points. From the current videos, it looks like they are all clumped in the middle. Is anyone able to do an overlay of the original 6D AF grid and the new Mk2? I don't do much sports so tracking isn't important but I do more portraits with f1.4 so ideally need AF points spread out.

Almost all fullframe DSLRs have pretty clumped AF points.





Deva said:
$1,999 in the US - and it's £1,999 in the UK! I appreciate the pound's been going to hell in a handcart for the last 12 months, but it's not at parity with the dollar yet - it's almost $1.30 today. What's Canon got against Britain?

As always, US prices don't include sales tax (if any - depends on state). UK has 20% VAT.]
 
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