Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications

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EchoLocation said:
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.
i would prefer G1X MII over the RX100 MII for the following reasons :
- more usefull focal range (24-120 vs 28-100)
- more "constant" aperture 3.9@120mm vs 4.9@100mm
- much better handling with bulkier body and 2 grip size to choose from (i have big hands ;) )
- canon menus and ergonomics with 2 dials allow intuitive manual modes and easy setup
- lower resolution but better sensor especially on high isos (see g1x vs rx100 comparisons)
- it should have a shallower DoF if you want it
- touch screen to be able to choose quickly your focus area
- better exposure range (1/4000 - 60s vs 1/2000 - 30s)
- 3 stop ND built-in (if it's like MK1)
....

1" sensor, 20mp and small size aren't everything. But I Agree that RX series should have been a apin in the a** for Canon.
Welle they need that to move forward. Thanks Sony!! ;D
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers who will buy this camera.
i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.
+1
 
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hachu21 said:
EchoLocation said:
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.
i would prefer G1X MII over the RX100 MII for the following reasons :
- more usefull focal range (24-120 vs 28-100)
- more "constant" aperture 3.9@120mm vs 4.9@100mm
- much better handling with bulkier body and 2 grip size to choose from (i have big hands ;) )
- canon menus and ergonomics with 2 dials allow intuitive manual modes and easy setup
- lower resolution but better sensor especially on high isos (see g1x vs rx100 comparisons)
- it should have a shallower DoF if you want it
- touch screen to be able to choose quickly your focus area
- better exposure range (1/4000 - 60s vs 1/2000 - 30s)

yep, and in RLPhotos case you can use the canon flash and the nice triggers you already have. ;)
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash. ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers.

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

I'm not the only one. David hobby used an old g-series cam for the same reasons. It's a power users camera which the Rx100 is NOT. It's not even comparable to G-series cameras in flexibility.

nobody said your the only one... but you and david are how many percent of the possible buyers? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

im a strobist myself but i never used my P&S for that.
strobist setups normaly need time and gear to setup, i don´t do it out of the blue.
oh nice motive..... let´s setup my 3 strobes + umbrellas and stands i carry all day to shoot it with my P&S.
never happend to me. ;)

so when i shoot that stuff i use my DSLR.


Also, this forum doesn't really cater to the 90% of customers. ::) ::) ::)

exactly.. way to many geeks here.

the majority doesn´t even know what x-sync is.
and so i doubt it´s a big point on their feature list.

What are you on about? Were not comparing DSLRs to P&S's. Were comparing P&S to P&S and the G-series cams have an advantage of being flexible. I'd take my G15 over a Rx100 anyday for what I do. Small light kits with High Sync speeds means I don't have to ND my SLR, I don't have to carry my SLR, I don't have to take as big as lights as with my SLR.

Your not seeing the potential if this G1x II has an electronic shutter.
 
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RLPhoto said:
What are you on about?

were not comparing DSLRs to P&S's. Were comparing P&S to P&S and the G-series cams have an advantage of being flexible. I'd take my G15 over a Rx100 anyday for what I do. Small light kits with High Sync speeds means I don't have to ND my SLR, I don't have to carry my SLR, I don't have to take as big as lights as with my SLR.

Your not seeing the potential if this G1x II has an electronic shutter.

well read again you may get it. others seem to get it.

hint: i don´t buy a camera for a feature i don´t need.
it´s not so hard to grasp is it?

I'd take my G15 over a Rx100 anyday for what I do

yes YOU...


Your not seeing the potential if this G1x II has an electronic shutter.

well you don´t know what i see... do you? ;)
be sure i see it... but i don´t really care.
my needs for a P&S are different i guess.

because I don´t shoot strobist stuff with a P&S.....
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
What are you on about?

were not comparing DSLRs to P&S's. Were comparing P&S to P&S and the G-series cams have an advantage of being flexible. I'd take my G15 over a Rx100 anyday for what I do. Small light kits with High Sync speeds means I don't have to ND my SLR, I don't have to carry my SLR, I don't have to take as big as lights as with my SLR.

Your not seeing the potential if this G1x II has an electronic shutter.

well read again you may get it. others seem to get it.

hint: i don´t buy a camera for a feature i don´t need.
it´s not so hard to grasp is it?

I'd take my G15 over a Rx100 anyday for what I do

yes YOU...


Your not seeing the potential if this G1x II has an electronic shutter.

well you don´t know what i see... do you? ;)
be sure i see it... but i don´t really care.
my needs for a P&S are different i guess.

I guess overpriced P&S are right down your alley then. I think its hard for you to grasp that some will buy a camera for a feature. ::)
 
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RLPhoto said:
I guess overpriced P&S are right down your alley then. I think its hard for you to grasp that some will buy a camera for a feature. ::)

well do we want to get personal?
you know S___ about me and what i buy, right?

when you can´t accept that i and others here don´t buy a P&S camera for it´s x-sync speed then you obviously have a problem.

end of this topic for me as this is useless talk.
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
I guess overpriced P&S are right down your alley then. I think its hard for you to grasp that some will buy a camera for a feature. ::)

well do we want to get personal?
you know S___ about me and what i buy, right?

when you can´t accept that i and others here don´t buy a P&S camera for it´s x-sync speed then you obviously have a problem.

end of this topic for me as this is useless talk.

You can't accept that I and others here DO buy a P&S camera with a hot-shoe for its X-sync then you obviously have a problem.
 
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Rienzphotoz said:
Lichtgestalt said:
i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers who will buy this camera.
i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.
+1

lets be clear, it´s always nice to have better features.
but of course you have to judge if it´s important for you or not.

no matter if it´s x-sync, fps, megapixels, video features etc.

when i had to choose between the G15 or the RX100 II then for my needs the RX100 is the better camera. and who could know it better then me? ;D
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
I guess overpriced P&S are right down your alley then. I think its hard for you to grasp that some will buy a camera for a feature. ::)

well do we want to get personal?
you know S___ about me and what i buy, right?

when you can´t accept that i and others here don´t buy a P&S camera for it´s x-sync speed then you obviously have a problem.

end of this topic for me as this is useless talk.

You can't accept that I and others here DO buy a P&S camera with a hot-shoe for its X-sync then you obviously have a problem.

read my postings again you are fantasizing.
 
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photosites said:
RLPhoto said:
Because you read my comment and didn't factor the second part of my question about the sync speed. You automatically assumed that all I care about were the looks, quite the contrary if it has an electronic shutter, I'd probably buy this solely for the high true sync speed. It still looks like a steaming pile of $&@! but it will be a high true sync speed, ambient light overpowering brick that I'd buy.

You brought up a very interesting point. If this uses the same leaf shutter as G16 and G1X (which I believe it does), the sync speed should be up to the fastest shutter speed of the cam (1/2000 or 1/4000).

Another thing I love about Canon is the compact 270EX II too has an auto high sync capability so I just mount it and bring it out to the sun and shoot without having to configure anything.

The most sensible comment here. If only some would see the light and the lighting potential.
 
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116mm & 553/516g - my EOS-M/22mm is 410g (incl battery&card) and a tick smaller. Promising quality of the body.

Tilt screen (which I miss a lot on the EoS-M), flash and a good zoom range makes the G1xmII a perfect business travel camera for me - if the price point would be a tad lower (or include the EVF - BUNDLE please!!)


Hopefully:
- the EVF is compatible with the EOS-M
- better battery life
- and improved focus speed (phase detect or dual pixel)

What a dream if the lens would be removable........although I doubt.
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
I guess overpriced P&S are right down your alley then. I think its hard for you to grasp that some will buy a camera for a feature. ::)

well do we want to get personal?
you know S___ about me and what i buy, right?

when you can´t accept that i and others here don´t buy a P&S camera for it´s x-sync speed then you obviously have a problem.

end of this topic for me as this is useless talk.

You can't accept that I and others here DO buy a P&S camera with a hot-shoe for its X-sync then you obviously have a problem.

read my postings again you are fantasizing.

Direct Quote.

"I'm a strobist myself but i never used my P&S for that.
strobist setups normaly need time and gear to setup, i don´t do it out of the blue.
oh nice motive..... let´s setup my 3 strobes + umbrellas and stands i carry all day to shoot it with my P&S.
never happend to me. ;)

so when i shoot that stuff i use my DSLR."


That doesn't mean some do use P&S for strobist.
 
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RLPhoto said:
photosites said:
RLPhoto said:
Because you read my comment and didn't factor the second part of my question about the sync speed. You automatically assumed that all I care about were the looks, quite the contrary if it has an electronic shutter, I'd probably buy this solely for the high true sync speed. It still looks like a steaming pile of $&@! but it will be a high true sync speed, ambient light overpowering brick that I'd buy.

You brought up a very interesting point. If this uses the same leaf shutter as G16 and G1X (which I believe it does), the sync speed should be up to the fastest shutter speed of the cam (1/2000 or 1/4000).

Another thing I love about Canon is the compact 270EX II too has an auto high sync capability so I just mount it and bring it out to the sun and shoot without having to configure anything.

The most sensible comment here. If only some would see the light and the lighting potential.

well maybe these other don´t shoot flash with a P&S..... and that´s why they don´t care! ::)

if those still life shooters could ony see the potential of an 1DX shooting birds in flight....

that you don´t care doesn´t mean you don´t see the potential.... different shoes you know.
but keep on telling us how bright you are and how dumb all others must be. :P
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
I guess overpriced P&S are right down your alley then. I think its hard for you to grasp that some will buy a camera for a feature. ::)

well do we want to get personal?
you know S___ about me and what i buy, right?

when you can´t accept that i and others here don´t buy a P&S camera for it´s x-sync speed then you obviously have a problem.

end of this topic for me as this is useless talk.

You can't accept that I and others here DO buy a P&S camera with a hot-shoe for its X-sync then you obviously have a problem.

read my postings again you are fantasizing.

Direct Quote.

"I'm a strobist myself but i never used my P&S for that.
strobist setups normaly need time and gear to setup, i don´t do it out of the blue.
oh nice motive..... let´s setup my 3 strobes + umbrellas and stands i carry all day to shoot it with my P&S.
never happend to me. ;)

so when i shoot that stuff i use my DSLR."


That doesn't mean some do use P&S for strobist.

what on the word I don´t you get?

ROTFL..
 
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The pics on best buy's listing look good. I'm glad the tilting LCD still allows for selfies and overhead shots. I guess that only gives up on low-angle portrait orientation, not a huge loss.

Not sure what difference the detachable grip is going to make here, the pics didn't make it look substantial. They only show a slight bump forward in the overhead view. Maybe there is something added below? Wouldn't be a bad concept. I have a RRS plate on mine and I find the additional extension below adds to the hold-ability.

Also hope the built-in ND remains, that was a cool and useful feature, especially when using a CP on the front end.

I am starting to wonder if I should ebay the mark I now...
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
photosites said:
RLPhoto said:
Because you read my comment and didn't factor the second part of my question about the sync speed. You automatically assumed that all I care about were the looks, quite the contrary if it has an electronic shutter, I'd probably buy this solely for the high true sync speed. It still looks like a steaming pile of $&@! but it will be a high true sync speed, ambient light overpowering brick that I'd buy.

You brought up a very interesting point. If this uses the same leaf shutter as G16 and G1X (which I believe it does), the sync speed should be up to the fastest shutter speed of the cam (1/2000 or 1/4000).

Another thing I love about Canon is the compact 270EX II too has an auto high sync capability so I just mount it and bring it out to the sun and shoot without having to configure anything.

The most sensible comment here. If only some would see the light and the lighting potential.

well maybe these other don´t shoot flash with a P&S..... and that´s why they don´t care! ::)

if those still life shooters could ony see the potential of an 1DX shooting birds in flight....

that you don´t care doesn´t mean you don´t see the potential.... different shoes you know.
but keep on telling us how bright you are and how dumb all others must be. :P
The point flew past your head again. Some do buy cameras for the x-sync but keep telling us how you only shoot strobist with DSLRs and anyone else is dumb who disagrees with you.
 
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