Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications

RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.
I actually think it looks promising, I like the grip. It should be easy to hold steady. The overall look is a bit rugged which I like. I have the G11 on the side but I am not too thrilled about the looks of that.
 
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photosites said:
From the pics, it is 12.5mm at its widest. If this were 24mm, then we are looking at a crop factor of 1.92.

Working backwards, you will get the following sensor dimensions:

Diag: 22.5 mm
WxH: 18mm x 13.5mm
Area: 243mm2

This means this sensor is halfway between the old 1.5" and the m43 sensor. i.e. It has about 8% smaller surface area than 1.5" and about 8% bigger area than the m43.

This matches the mpx count as well. The G1X sensor was 14.3mpx. The mark II is about 8% less at about 13.2mpx.

I think it's the same 18.7mm x 14mm sensor, just used as 18.7mm x 12.5mm in 3:2 mode and as a little narrower in 4:3 mode. So, you're always cropping a few sensor pixels.
 
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Lee Jay said:
photosites said:
From the pics, it is 12.5mm at its widest. If this were 24mm, then we are looking at a crop factor of 1.92.

Working backwards, you will get the following sensor dimensions:

Diag: 22.5 mm
WxH: 18mm x 13.5mm
Area: 243mm2

This means this sensor is halfway between the old 1.5" and the m43 sensor. i.e. It has about 8% smaller surface area than 1.5" and about 8% bigger area than the m43.

This matches the mpx count as well. The G1X sensor was 14.3mpx. The mark II is about 8% less at about 13.2mpx.

I think it's the same 18.7mm x 14mm sensor, just used as 18.7mm x 12.5mm in 3:2 mode and as a little narrower in 4:3 mode. So, you're always cropping a few sensor pixels.

You are probably right.
 
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Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

It's f/2 at the wide end, which isn't exactly slow, and how does any of this relate to the one topic I mentioned - it's looks? I just don't see why anyone cares at all for how a camera looks!

Because you read my comment and didn't factor the second part of my question about the sync speed. You automatically assumed that all I care about were the looks, quite the contrary if it has an electronic shutter, I'd probably buy this solely for the high true sync speed. It still looks like a steaming pile of $&@! but it will be a high true sync speed, ambient light overpowering brick that I'd buy.
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

Just looks like a camera to me!
 
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for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.
 
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RLPhoto said:
Because you read my comment and didn't factor the second part of my question about the sync speed. You automatically assumed that all I care about were the looks, quite the contrary if it has an electronic shutter, I'd probably buy this solely for the high true sync speed. It still looks like a steaming pile of $&@! but it will be a high true sync speed, ambient light overpowering brick that I'd buy.

You brought up a very interesting point. If this uses the same leaf shutter as G16 and G1X (which I believe it does), the sync speed should be up to the fastest shutter speed of the cam (1/2000 or 1/4000).

Another thing I love about Canon is the compact 270EX II too has an auto high sync capability so I just mount it and bring it out to the sun and shoot without having to configure anything.
 
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EchoLocation said:
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.

Same questions popped in my head when i saw the specs and the price point...
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot. :-[
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot. :-[

G15. F1.8-F2.8. ::)
 
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EchoLocation said:
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.

smaller sensor....

i have the RX100 and im happy with it but i find this one tempting.
from a first look.

thought price will play an important role.
if it really costs ~700$ i will wait until the price drops.
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot. :-[

G15. F1.8-F2.8. ::)

to small a sensor.

i can hear them laugh already.... :-[

ps: and it´s not good looking either.
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Lee Jay said:
RLPhoto said:
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks. It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot. :-[

G15. F1.8-F2.8. ::)

to small a sensor.

i can hear them laugh already.... :-[

ps: and it´s not good looking either.

Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like strobist stuff, a larger zoom range, and you know that very useful sync speed. ;D
 
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RLPhoto said:
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash. ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers who will buy this camera.

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

by the way:

size is 116.4x74x66.2mm

and you can shoot selfies and look at the display (if you have too) the swivel display allows it.

http://www.canonwatch.com/canon-powershot-g1-x-ii-product-brochure-leaked-japanese/
 
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Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash. ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers.

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

I'm not the only one. David hobby used an old g-series cam for the same reasons. It's a power users camera which the Rx100 is NOT. It's not even comparable to G-series cameras in flexibility. Also, this forum doesn't really cater to the 90% of customers. ::) ::) ::)
 
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RLPhoto said:
Lichtgestalt said:
RLPhoto said:
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash. ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers.

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

I'm not the only one. David hobby used an old g-series cam for the same reasons. It's a power users camera which the Rx100 is NOT. It's not even comparable to G-series cameras in flexibility.

nobody said your the only one... but you and david are how many percent of the possible buyers? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

im a strobist myself but i never used my P&S for that.
strobist setups normaly need time and gear to setup, i don´t do it out of the blue.
oh nice motive..... let´s setup my 3 strobes + umbrellas and stands i carry all day to shoot it with my P&S.
never happend to me. ;)

so when i shoot that stuff i use my DSLR.


Also, this forum doesn't really cater to the 90% of customers. ::) ::) ::)

exactly.. way to many geeks here.

the majority doesn´t even know what x-sync is.
and so i doubt it´s a big point on their feature list.
 
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