Canon RF-S 22mm f/2 STM is coming alongside the EOS R50 [CR2]

[David - Sydney]

Just need the EF-m 11-22m now to round off the wide angle focal range for APS-C sensors
Still waiting for a pancake for full frame though.

 

[Czardoom]

Greatly simplified formula:
EF-M lens uses RF mount = EF-M MSRP * 1.3

Funny how your formula doesn't work, so far (no going to try and predict the future).

EF-M 18-45mm $299.99
RF-S 18-45mm $299.99
EF-M 18-150mm $499.99
RF-S 18-150mm $499.99

 

[Czardoom]

+ stupid long delays quoting "shortages" (Canon is milking their customers with their current RF-S cameras and lenses to max).

"Shortages" are real unless you are living under a rock.

Prices for the new RF-S lenses are exactly the same as their EF-M counterparts. The R7 seems fairly priced (or even low-priced) for the specs, as is the R10. If that's "milking" than we should be glad they are "milking". It's OK to be biased against Canon, but try not to be so obvious.

 

[shadow]

This is promising. What I would love to see is that Sigma 16mm f/1.4 ported over to RF mount. If only Canon weren’t blockading third parties.

I mention on another thread, Sigma answered me, no RF plans now at all due to the Canon legal problem with another 3rd party lens mfgr, but could maybe change someday, it's up to Canon they said they would immediately if allowed.

I really like my 22mm pancake for the M50. It's $179. everywhere now. I bet the RF will be $300. If you like really wide angle check out the Sony 11mm f/1.8.

 

[Abbuzze]

Funny how your formula doesn't work, so far (no going to try and predict the future).

EF-M 18-45mm $299.99
RF-S 18-45mm $299.99
EF-M 18-150mm $499.99
RF-S 18-150mm $499.99

There is no EF-M 18-45mm - the original EF-M lens is 15-45mm. Canon simplified this lens for RF-S (removed some glass) and increased the price.

And in €-country it looks like this:

EF-M 15-45mm 299€
RF-S 18-45mm 349€ (Simplified version)
EF-M 18-150mm 499€
RF-S 18-150mm 569€


You're right, the price increase is only 15% - with partially reduced performance for the customer and for 5-year-old constructions.

If you then compare the kit lens with Nikon, it gets really sad.

DX 16-50mm f/3.5-6.3 VR - €379

The RF-S 18-45 F4.5-63 is not really an attractive package.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Which raises the question of why the 11-22 zoom is taking so long.

I would rather have a 10-18.
Oh and Plus 1 for not writing "begs the question"

 

[ashmadux]

The re-housing of M lenses. I wonder how they will spin this 'innovation'.
Honestly it's not a bad this for the terrible RFS lineup.

Not sure i can trust canon again with small mirrorless, but we will see. Looking at my 3 M bodies and they are like .."nah, we are good".

 

[ashmadux]

There is no EF-M 18-45mm - the original EF-M lens is 15-45mm. Canon simplified this lens for RF-S (removed some glass) and increased the price.

And in €-country it looks like this:

EF-M 15-45mm 299€
RF-S 18-45mm 349€ (Simplified version)
EF-M 18-150mm 499€
RF-S 18-150mm 569€


You're right, the price increase is only 15% - with partially reduced performance for the customer and for 5-year-old constructions.

If you then compare the kit lens with Nikon, it gets really sad.

DX 16-50mm f/3.5-6.3 VR - €379

The RF-S 18-45 F4.5-63 is not really an attractive package.

Because it's a trash lens.

We will see if they reduce the quality of all the quality of the rest of the EFM lineup they will re-house...oops, i meant (cough) introduce. I can honestly see it happening.

Otherwise, it's been rough go for lenses that are not an L.

 

[LSXPhotog]

I just said adios to my Canon R7, but I am excited to see this lens hit the market. Hopefully one day we will get an APS-C RF mount camera that doesn't have a garbage mechanical shutter or super slow sensor readout speeds. I'll get one again once they resolve this. But the R7 was just not the camera I was hoping for.

 

[josephandrews222]

I just said adios to my Canon R7, but I am excited to see this lens hit the market. Hopefully one day we will get an APS-C RF mount camera that doesn't have a garbage mechanical shutter or super slow sensor readout speeds. I'll get one again once they resolve this. But the R7 was just not the camera I was hoping for.

I think....I think that Canon's APS-C mirrorless strategy has been...curious?

This is a photography site, right? Perhaps it will all come into focus, for me at least...soon!

What is your state of Fuji ownership these days?

 

[neuroanatomist]

What is your state of Fuji ownership these days?

Fuji has about 5% of the (digital) camera market.

 

[Czardoom]

There is no EF-M 18-45mm - the original EF-M lens is 15-45mm. Canon simplified this lens for RF-S (removed some glass) and increased the price.

And in €-country it looks like this:

EF-M 15-45mm 299€
RF-S 18-45mm 349€ (Simplified version)
EF-M 18-150mm 499€
RF-S 18-150mm 569€


You're right, the price increase is only 15% - with partially reduced performance for the customer and for 5-year-old constructions.

If you then compare the kit lens with Nikon, it gets really sad.

DX 16-50mm f/3.5-6.3 VR - €379

The RF-S 18-45 F4.5-63 is not really an attractive package.

Thanks for the correction. Yes, my bad, no EF-M 18-45mm. Sorry to hear that the prices are not the same as they are here in the USA.

 

[Czardoom]

Which raises the question of why the 11-22 zoom is taking so long.

And just how many lenses do you think Canon can make in a year? I swear, the number of comments from forum menbers about lenses that have not been released make me think that some people would have been happier had Canon waited until 2024 or 2025 before releasing any R cameras. That would have given them time to make all the RF and RF-S lenses in advance. But, of course trhat would have been completely stupid. So people will just have to understand that they have to wait and not be like 7 year old crybabies.

 

[koenkooi]

And just how many lenses do you think Canon can make in a year?

Canon says they will introduce 8 new lenses per year, they are up to 7 in 2022. So my answer to that question would be ‘Fewer than Canon marketing says they can’.

 

[Bob Howland]

And just how many lenses do you think Canon can make in a year? I swear, the number of comments from forum menbers about lenses that have not been released make me think that some people would have been happier had Canon waited until 2024 or 2025 before releasing any R cameras. That would have given them time to make all the RF and RF-S lenses in advance. But, of course trhat would have been completely stupid. So people will just have to understand that they have to wait and not be like 7 year old crybabies.

Changing a mount on an existing lens has to be much cheaper, easier and faster than engineering a new lens from scratch. Maybe everybody, including me, is overestimating how many M-series lenses will be remounted.

 

[koenkooi]

Changing a mount on an existing lens has to be much cheaper, easier and faster than engineering a new lens from scratch. Maybe everybody, including me, is overestimating how many M-series lenses will be remounted.

In various interviews the past years Canon has strongly implied that there's only a single lens design team, which will only work on a single design at a time. If that's true, it makes a lot of sense to take the wide angle EF-M designs and 'rehouse' them.

Looking at the RF16mm and RF24mm, I do wonder how many RF-S lenses are truly needed. The use of software based corrections seem to take a lot of weight and cost away from full frame capable designs. Unless Canon execs get irritated by online numbskulls stating "The R7 has only 2 lenses available". I can sympathize with that sentiment

 

[blackcoffee17]

The 22mm is a great lens but was already struggling on the 32MP sensor.

 

[neuroanatomist]

The 22mm is a great lens but was already struggling on the 32MP sensor.

I’m sorry you are having difficulty taking good pictures with your M22/2 on your M6II. I’m certainly not having any problems.

You do have the M6II and M22, right? I’m sure you aren’t just parroting stuff you saw on YouTube.

 

[koenkooi]

I’m sorry you are having difficulty taking good pictures with your M22/2 on your M6II. I’m certainly not having any problems. [...]

I wouldn't say I'm having problems with it, but the pictures from the EF-M 22mm show a big difference between being processed with DPP4+DLO or DxO PL and with Adobe tools. DPP4 and DxO do a great job, Adobe tools give a more muddy result.

And I'm spoilt by being able to compare it with the EF-M 32mm which looks sharp in every RAW processor, even the Adobe one

 

[blackcoffee17]

I’m sorry you are having difficulty taking good pictures with your M22/2 on your M6II. I’m certainly not having any problems.

You do have the M6II and M22, right? I’m sure you aren’t just parroting stuff you saw on YouTube.

Why you always so defensive and sarcastic?