Canon Sales Going Pretty Well in Japan

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The BCN Japan 2016 award winners have been announced in various segments of the digital imaging world. Canon continues to show strong sales in point & shoot and DSLR camera sales. The surprising finish for Canon in Japan is third place in mirrorless sales.</p>
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<p>Keep in mind Japan may not represent the rest of the world, especially when it comes to mirrorless. That is the one marketplace where mirrorless cameras have had the most acceptance.</p>
<p>We suspect point and shoot and DSLR sales would favour Canon on most of the planet.</p>
<p><em>Thanks Richard</em></p>
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In 2013, Japan's population was 127 million, 1.78% of world population. But it received 13% of world camera shipments and 15% of the lenses.

It was about 30% for Europe and America.

The numbers probably hasn't changed much since then.

Anyways, there are reasons why Canon does what it does. Some of us love to compare Canon with Kodak. And some of us badly want Canon to meet our individual needs, the notion is that otherwise Canon is destined to be doomed. Bottom line is that Canon wants to keep most people happy and still make profit. They are pretty good at doing it despite out DR and mirrorless crave.
 
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dolina said:
neuroanatomist said:
Canon Rumors said:
The surprising finish for Canon in Japan is third place in mirrorless sales.

In 2014, Canon was in 4th, barely behind Panasonic and trending up.

Where is Fuji in the mirrorless race? I was expecting them to be #1

I think they were at #4 in 2014 with 11% market share as far as I can remember. Over all they are a very small player though. This are last month's numbers. Fuji is no where to be found in top 20.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html
 
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dolina said:
Diltiazem said:
I think they were at #4 in 2014 with 11% market share as far as I can remember. Over all they are a very small player though. This are last month's numbers. Fuji is no where to be found in top 20.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html
Numbers aside. Fuji does make appealing looking camera if you can't afford a Leica. :)

They surely do. I was really tempted to get one as my second/third travel camera. But I would wait till Canon makes one that I like. A true Canon fanboy. 8)
Here are the mirrorless numbers, btw. You will have to wonder why M2 is at #1.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html
 
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Diltiazem said:
They surely do. I was really tempted to get one as my second/third travel camera. But I would wait till Canon makes one that I like. A true Canon fanboy. 8)
Here are the mirrorless numbers, btw. You will have to wonder why M2 is at #1.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html
Might be on sale?

Decided not to wait and went ahead with this instead.

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Just waiting for the Metabones Mark IV to be shipped. ;)
 
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dolina said:
Diltiazem said:
They surely do. I was really tempted to get one as my second/third travel camera. But I would wait till Canon makes one that I like. A true Canon fanboy. 8)
Here are the mirrorless numbers, btw. You will have to wonder why M2 is at #1.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html
Might be on sale?

Decided not to wait and went ahead with this instead.

12558431_1019075984798345_433867000_n.jpg


Just waiting for the Metabones Mark IV to be shipped. ;)

Congratulations. I am sure that's a fabulous combination.

My mirrorless set up will be different though. I want it to be really light. So, Canon or not, it will be the camera plus 1-2 pancake style prime lenses and a light weight zoom.
 
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dolina said:
Diltiazem said:
I think they were at #4 in 2014 with 11% market share as far as I can remember. Over all they are a very small player though. This are last month's numbers. Fuji is no where to be found in top 20.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html
Numbers aside. Fuji does make appealing looking camera if you can't afford a Leica. :)

Only if you like the retro/hipster look. If so, then Fuji does make good jewelry.
 
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No ! NO ! it can't be ! The EOS M is way behind other mirror-less and lacks essential features, right ? And if anyone knows about mirror-less cameras it's the Japanese consumer right ?

And how can Canon be so far ahead in slrs when their camera are so inferior ? I mean the internet says so - all over ! Don't the Japanese look at the sensors ? Don't they want to shoot under exposed images of black cats in coal holes like everyone else ? Or lift black Space to reveal swirling nebulas whilst exposing for the planet Zog ?

Where did you find this rubbish ? ;)
 
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Diltiazem said:
dolina said:
neuroanatomist said:
Canon Rumors said:
The surprising finish for Canon in Japan is third place in mirrorless sales.

In 2014, Canon was in 4th, barely behind Panasonic and trending up.

Where is Fuji in the mirrorless race? I was expecting them to be #1

I think they were at #4 in 2014 with 11% market share as far as I can remember. Over all they are a very small player though. This are last month's numbers. Fuji is no where to be found in top 20.

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008_month.html

Your recollection is incorrect, insofar as BCN's data for Japan. As I stated, Canon was #4. Fuji fought it out with Nikon for the bottom slot...and Fuji won!

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You can also see that Sony's downward and Oly's upward trends continued through 2015, with Oly now on top.
 
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Overall, this quite clearly shows how far the views of some CR members are disconnected from reality. "Canon can't compete in mirrorless?" ::)

This is Canon 'fighting with one arm tied behind their back' – not really investing much in a smaller ILC market segment, with only one body line and a handful of lenses, compared to the diverse range of the other main players in the segment...and Canon is #3. Consider what's likely to happen if the global MILC market ever grows to the point that Canon decides it's worth a serious investment....
 
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I'm quite impressed by the Oly/Pana numbers. Combined, it means that m4/3 accounts for more than a third of the MILC market. That's a good news for a system I like. :)

And I'm quite impressed by Canon...4th, very close to third with the M line... I wouldn't have bet on that. :)

Sony is quite less dominant than photography forums would led you to believe...

Djaaf.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Djaaf said:
And I'm quite impressed by Canon...4th, very close to third 3rd with the M line... I wouldn't have bet on that. :)

Fixed that.

Yeah, talking about the 2014 numbers there. So, 4th, close to 3rd. :D

2015 numbers are even more surprising... Oly first with almost 35% of market share ? On the year of the big bad A7mkII and A7rmkII ? And Sony down to 25% ? and Canon 3rd ? That's pretty much taking backwards every prediction on every photo forum. :)

Djaaf.
 
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Djaaf said:
neuroanatomist said:
Djaaf said:
And I'm quite impressed by Canon...4th, very close to third 3rd with the M line... I wouldn't have bet on that. :)

Fixed that.

Yeah, talking about the 2014 numbers there. So, 4th, close to 3rd. :D

2015 numbers are even more surprising... Oly first with almost 35% of market share ? On the year of the big bad A7mkII and A7rmkII ? And Sony down to 25% ? and Canon 3rd ? That's pretty much taking backwards every prediction on every photo forum. :)

Djaaf.

Not real surprising what did Sony release in APS-c crop land nothing. A7mII and A7rII were not mass market and likely did not factor in much on sales. Olympus had a real interesting year it was also the first year in a long time there camera division was profitable. It also had a bunch of older cameras go sale.

What we always fail to recognize is the fact that the EOS-m was well placed for its target audience. Young Japanese woman who have more disposable income, small and cute it has sold relatively well from the vary beginning there. That still does not stop us from bashing it because it is not the camera we wanted.
 
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tcmatthews said:
Djaaf said:
neuroanatomist said:
Djaaf said:
And I'm quite impressed by Canon...4th, very close to third 3rd with the M line... I wouldn't have bet on that. :)

Fixed that.

Yeah, talking about the 2014 numbers there. So, 4th, close to 3rd. :D

2015 numbers are even more surprising... Oly first with almost 35% of market share ? On the year of the big bad A7mkII and A7rmkII ? And Sony down to 25% ? and Canon 3rd ? That's pretty much taking backwards every prediction on every photo forum. :)

Djaaf.

Not real surprising what did Sony release in APS-c crop land nothing. A7mII and A7rII were not mass market and likely did not factor in much on sales. Olympus had a real interesting year it was also the first year in a long time there camera division was profitable. It also had a bunch of older cameras go sale.

What we always fail to recognize is the fact that the EOS-m was well placed for its target audience. Young Japanese woman who have more disposable income, small and cute it has sold relatively well from the vary beginning there. That still does not stop us from bashing it because it is not the camera we wanted.
Sony has a6000 and other cheap mirrorless ones as wel. People still talks about how great a6000 and Sony doesn't need replacement.
 
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