Canon to Announce 2 Cameras in June [CR2]

[dlleno]

I wonder if the 650D will have a new APS-C sensor which will appear in the 7D2

 

[infared]

If it is like the Nikon...I can go to sleep at night, no problem.
LOL!

I do not want Canon to pull a Nikon, but I expect them to. That's life in the mass market.

It would be nice if they did two mirrorless lines, a G1X mainstream line and a FF Fuji/Leica-killer line.

I think it is a total dream that Canon would make a full-frame mirrorless camera. No way. (I would like to see it too, though).

 

[clarkia]

something to give the om-d or x-pro 1 a run for their money would be amazing. it needs to be better than the Nikon 1. i don't see Canon making new lenses that are M mount or 4/3 compatible but it sure would be nice...

as the om-d shows, sensor size is becoming less and less of a factor in determining IQ these days. still not SLR quality but some damn fine images given the size and weight of cameras in this category- one that's just going to explode in the next few years... exciting times for everyone (other than Leica...)

 

[Lee Jay]

Interesting. Of the available mirrorless options, the Nikon is the only one that's even remotely interesting to me. This is because it's fast and has usable tracking autofocus due to its on-sensor phase detection system. All the others are just overgrown compacts that don't have the benefits compacts have of actually being compact combined with being cheap.

Autofocus on some compact cameras is fantastic. For the tests I've seen between the V1 and the NEX7, the NEX beats it in every test except single point autofocus where the lens is already set to the correct distance. I expect the Nikon has better low light performance but autofocus isn't everything...far from it. I admit however that these tests can be somewhat subjective. From experience i can say that the NEX-7 is very fast and autofocus is quite capable.

There are no compact cameras that can track moving subjects effectively, and only the Nikon can do it in the mirrorless group. Speed of AF on a stationary subject is largely irrelevant, and that's all most people quote.

 

[dr croubie]

Canon will announce 2 new cameras in June

Maybe.
But how many will they ship?

 

[keithfullermusic]

I think we are misreading what canon is saying. My guess is that they will announce that the first two 1DXs will be ready to ship.

 

[clicstudio]

Stop announcing and start delivering!

Tired of all the announcements and still waiting for a 1DX and 24-70II... My friend will finally get his 5DIII on Friday from B&H but no grip until who knows when...
This is BS!

 

[xthebillx]

Great! (When do we get the bg-e11?)

Also, the image CR keeps using for these "mirrorless" posts has a prism...and therefore has a mirror...am I wrong about that?

 

[wockawocka]

Full frame mirrorless with EF lenses, wow.

 

[itsnotmeyouknow]

FF mirrorless? If Canon brings that out, I'll eat my hat! Mind you, the last time I said that, it was in another forum and it was about the Nikon D800, still picking wool out of my teeth now!

FF mirrorless would possibly make it taste nicer though!

 

[RobertG.]

I guess we get a G1X with a new mount adaptable to EF-S for a price of more than $1000. Some overpriced miodocre lenses, too. Nothing exiting.

A M9 competitor with EF mount would be really great. A usable, small back-up body for professionals for a decent price (< $1500) would be best. I'll continue dreaming...

 

[Woody]

I've got zero interest in these cameras. The only thing that has my attention is: how good is their low ISO dynamic range?

 

[Woody]

Autofocus on some compact cameras is fantastic. For the tests I've seen between the V1 and the NEX7, the NEX beats it in every test except single point autofocus where the lens is already set to the correct distance. I expect the Nikon has better low light performance but autofocus isn't everything...far from it. I admit however that these tests can be somewhat subjective. From experience i can say that the NEX-7 is very fast and autofocus is quite capable.

Everyone forgets that the V1/J1 ONLY uses phase detection in good light. When light levels drop, they default to contrast based AF which has pathetic performance according to DPReview:

"Assuming that the light level is high enough, then the J1 and V1 switch to a 73-point focal-plane phase-detection AF system that offers fast and responsive 'single-shot' AF and impressive continuous AF tracking performance.

The switch to phase-detection AF depends on the amount of light falling onto the cameras' sensors, which is dependant on lens aperture as well as ambient light levels...

The J1 and V1's contrast-detection AF systems, which take over when light levels are too low for effective phase-detection AF (and remember that this is the camera's decision, not the photographer's) are less impressive. Focussing is less positive (AF wobbles quickly around the target rather than locking straight on it) but impressively accurate when it gets a 'lock'. The problem is that even in average interior room light, both cameras struggle to find that lock. They rarely give up completely (and built-in AF illuminators are on hand in both cameras) but we've been surprised by how frequently they falter."

- from http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikonv1j1/8

And that is the complete picture of V1/J1 AF performance.

 

[unfocused]

Almost everyone seems focused on the mirrorless. I'm anxious to see what this new Rebel is like. Hoping it will provide some clues as to the direction Canon will take with the 7DII. (At least I'll enjoy reading the tea leaves like everyone else.)

 

[Positron]

Great! (When do we get the bg-e11?)

Also, the image CR keeps using for these "mirrorless" posts has a prism...and therefore has a mirror...am I wrong about that?

It's just an artist's rendition. Also, see OM-D.

 

[maxxevv]

A mirrorless FF would be absolutely awesome... it would get the Leica M9 into loads of sales problems ...

BUT ... that isn't likely to happen anytime soon as its not a mass market item.

My guess is, its a camera with the G1X sensor, custom lenses that are ultra small,( since it has such a short back-focus distance from previous patent information). Will fit EF and EF-s lenses with an adaptor as well as compatible with the full range of Canon flashes and share some of the Rebel series stuff such as remotes and maybe batteries.

A US$1,000 kit at launch. ??? ;D

 

[the-ninth]

Hi guys,

I also cannot imagine a FF mirrorless, though I'd buy one if it is at $3K with a decent 50mm. EF is not a must if it limits Canon's ability to produce lenses of a smaller size, befitting a compact system. Small lenses are really a must here. Why would I need a mirrorless if I'd put a 70-200/2.8 in front? APS-C would be OK as well, anything smaller disappointing (Bokeh!).

But I guess us geeks, looking for a second option next to our DSLR, is not the main market that Canon wants to target, so their considerations might be different.

Cheers, Robert

 

[John Thomas]

But the question is:

It will be better than Sony's???

http://photorumors.com/2012/05/13/sony-a99-specs/

The Sony A99 camera will have 24.3 MP full frame sensor.
The A99 will have 102 focus points.
Two different A99 prototypes are being evaluated - one of them has a flip and touch screen.
The A99 will have 3 million pixel high-definition EVF.
To be announced in September 2012.
Price: 18,000 yuan (around $2,800).
The A99 will support 24 video recording formats and a variety of screen style filters.

 

[Marsu42]

But the question is: It will be better than Sony's???

Sony marketing hype aside, there has been a recent thread here "the writing's on the wall for traditional dslrs" and sadly I have to agree. The only question is if Canon will be able to convert some of their current market share in the entry-level segment into the new market, while retaining the upgrade path to high-end dslrs (i.e. the ef mount). But Canon has to get started now, and obviously they are going to.

Personally, I hope I'll never have to use an evf that draws power just for looking through it, but then again many even older-school photogs maybe wished they'll never use af or automatic metering...

 

[Z]

I'm not the best informed on this so someone correct me if I'm wrong... but Sony's translucent mirror technology is what allows the EVF with phase detect AF, and a translucent mirror is always going to lose light. Do we really see professionals adopting a system where they lose ~20% of the light their fast glass provides?