Canon to buy Sigma? (Per Sigma Rumors site)

I received this on September 13, 2015.

Canon is in acquisition talks with Sigma, which has rejected Canon's initial offer but is considering its 2nd offer. I know nothing regarding the new offer, but the first offer was about 7x current Sigma's net business value. No idea what will happen with Sigma products if the company is bought by Canon.
 
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distant.star said:
I see no business sense in such a move.

That is because you don't know what Sigma have on the table or what Canon are looking for.

One patent could be valuable enough for Canon to throw down that kind of money. Sigma must have a shed load of patents on the Foveon sensor design as well as a mutlitude of lens layouts.

Imagine a Sigma lens line without AF issues, they could call it the Art+ or something ;D
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
privatebydesign said:
distant.star said:
I see no business sense in such a move.
Imagine a Sigma lens line without AF issues, they could call it the Art+ or something ;D
Or perhaps rename it as Canon Art Luxury ??? and put two red rings on it :o and double the price. ::) :P

Sigma Lenses are good but they are not that good...
 
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Sigma's magic is a small collection of people doing design, and a gutsy CEO with a vision. I love Canon, but neither would be well homed in Canon.

What Sigma is doing is indeed a threat to Canon in an indirect fashion. In the absence of Tamron and, especially, Sigma, Canon would have an unassailably dominant professional/prosumer lens lineup. As it is, Sigma Art lenses are, at times, the best in their class, and they can be sold for just about what they originally cost. You don't even need Sigma's mount changing service. You can just sell your Art lens and buy it in another mount. This makes using Nikon and Sony much more attractive than they'd be otherwise.

If Canon were looking to put a stake in Nikon's heart, retiring the Sigma brand would be helpful. It would be terrible for photographers, including Canon shooters.
 
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Aglet said:
distant.star said:
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I see no business sense in such a move.
It would be purely strategic and is as follows:

EAT YOUR MOST SERIOUS COMPETITION

Seriously? Sigma are tiny compared to Canon and they offer very few similar items, Sigma certainly don't present Canon with any serious competition, let alone their "most serious competition".

Canon's most serious competitor has always been Nikon, second at this time, though who knows in a few years (they probably won't still be making cameras), would be the Sony camera division that I am sure Sony would quite happily spin off.

If Canon bought Sigma they would be buying a state of the art lens manufacturing facility and the skilled workforce that is there actually in Japan, they would also be buying the patents and intellectual property, and I suspect there is a good amount of value to that.

But I doubt if there is anything to this, the Canon share price hasn't reacted to these rumours and they would be the first to know and approve or disapprove of the idea.
 
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If this rumor is real and no nonsense than i see only two reasons for that move:

1. patents or production techniques (more likely):
tolusina said:
privatebydesign said:
.... Sigma must have a shed load of patents on the Foveon sensor design....
Very interesting possibilities there, doesn't seem Sigma has has fully explored and exploited Foveon tech.
Either the Foveon tech or something we don't have on the screen yet.

2. exogenic growth (less likely - esp. for the rumored price):
Aglet said:
It would be purely strategic and is as follows:

EAT YOUR MOST SERIOUS COMPETITION
If Canon sees Sigma as the "most serious" competition I would be really surprised.
I think that honor still belongs to SonNikon.

And to say that the portfolio of Sigma would add something up that Canon was not able to do themselves is likely unbelievable (except for patent restrictions, see 1.)

Time will tell, what's the truth.
 
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dilbert said:
I hope that anti-trust regulators stop this ...
+1

Sigma, as a lens maker, provides much needed competition and variety to the consumer market.
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I'd much prefer to see a licensing deal between Canon & Sigma such as Canon gets the rights to Sigma's Foveon technology, Sigma gets the rights to Canon's AF protocols and non-conflicting lens IDs plus whatever else.
+1, too

I don't know if the the Foveon patents are worth the rumored price. A licensing deal should be much cheaper if well-negotiated.
Let's hope Sigma will stay independent.
 
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privatebydesign said:
Aglet said:
distant.star said:
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I see no business sense in such a move.
It would be purely strategic and is as follows:

EAT YOUR MOST SERIOUS COMPETITION

Seriously? Sigma are tiny compared to Canon and they offer very few similar items, Sigma certainly don't present Canon with any serious competition, let alone their "most serious competition".

Seriously, that's like saying Toyota should buy Sparco in order to eat its most serious competition.
 
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