Canon Working on New EF 70-200 L Lens [CR2]
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Antono Refa said:
Or a 70-200mm f/4 DO BR EF-S IS USM ?
(What letters of the alphabet did I miss.. )
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TeT said:
Bigger: $15 000 - compare to 200-400 and it isn't easier to do similar with shorter focal ranges.
About the new 70-200: Still hoping for a 50-200 or 40-200 walk-around lens ...
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Given that both the 70-200F2.8 and the 70-200F4 are both stellar performers with astounding sharpness, if Canon is working on a replacement then whatever configuration the lens comes in will probably be one of the best IQ zoom lenses ever, perhaps even good enough to crack the top 1000 on DXO......
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Maybe the 70-200 2.8 non-IS II? otherwise it seems very odd
the f/4 IS already works very well and, of course so does the 2.8 IS II
the 2.8 non-IS was awesome on aps-c but borders a little dicey on FF and I think it's not been made for a while
never tried the f/4 non-IS but heard it was fine enough
the f/4 IS already works very well and, of course so does the 2.8 IS II
the 2.8 non-IS was awesome on aps-c but borders a little dicey on FF and I think it's not been made for a while
never tried the f/4 non-IS but heard it was fine enough
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A lighter f/4 with IS or a sharper f/2.8 without IS, I'll take either. The f/2.8 IS mk II is optically fantastic but is pretty hefty and, for me, has always been overkill; I rent in on occasion but have never had the need to own it outright. The non-IS f/2.8 is noticably worse, optically, and though the f/4 IS is already a bit smaller than the f/2.8 versions, you'd think it'd be lighter than it is. Solve either of those problems with the existing lenses and I'll be very happy. A revision of the already top-in-class f/2.8 IS or the too-medicore-to-bother-with f/4 non-IS holds no interest, for me.
I do wonder, regardless of the aperture and whether it's IS or not, if they'll simply start stripping back things like weather sealing and the thicker, white-painted shells from these zooms and longer primes. The way I hear it from stores and magazine writers around here, things like the Fuji 50-140 and the Sigma and Tamron 70-200—all lighter, cheaper and black plastic—have shot up in sales, as people move toward smaller cameras and generally don't value camera equipment as highly. (E.g. Only making around £40 profit on every £1000 body sold because the market won't support the larger margins of ten years ago.)
So it wouldn't surprise me if Canon went that way. Maybe scrap the non-IS versions and have the f/2.8L IS II at the high end of the price range, an f/4L IS II for the mid price and a black, non-L 70-200 f/4 or f/4-5.6 for the lower price range. As it is, Canon has four white, 'L' 70-200 zooms, two of which come in at pretty much the same price point. Pairing those middle two down into a fresh f/4 IS and replacing the lowest model with a non-L would make a lot of sense with the current market.
I do wonder, regardless of the aperture and whether it's IS or not, if they'll simply start stripping back things like weather sealing and the thicker, white-painted shells from these zooms and longer primes. The way I hear it from stores and magazine writers around here, things like the Fuji 50-140 and the Sigma and Tamron 70-200—all lighter, cheaper and black plastic—have shot up in sales, as people move toward smaller cameras and generally don't value camera equipment as highly. (E.g. Only making around £40 profit on every £1000 body sold because the market won't support the larger margins of ten years ago.)
So it wouldn't surprise me if Canon went that way. Maybe scrap the non-IS versions and have the f/2.8L IS II at the high end of the price range, an f/4L IS II for the mid price and a black, non-L 70-200 f/4 or f/4-5.6 for the lower price range. As it is, Canon has four white, 'L' 70-200 zooms, two of which come in at pretty much the same price point. Pairing those middle two down into a fresh f/4 IS and replacing the lowest model with a non-L would make a lot of sense with the current market.
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If the rumour didn't specifically say L I would have guessed 70-200 STM (maybe 3.5-5.6) to team up with the 24-105 STM. If it's an L lens though, my guess is 70-200 f/4L IS II to update the IS and reduce weight a little. Wonder if they'd even consider some sort of extending design so it can be made relatively short to pack in your bag? I suppose that might suggest 70-200 DO.
If it's an update to the 2.8 IS II, it will be very interesting to see what they have up their sleeve for it!
Perhaps the rumoured new 70-300 is the partner lens for the 24-105 STM (although there has been no update on that rumour for a while now). I figure the 24-105 STM will get a partner one of these days.
If it's an update to the 2.8 IS II, it will be very interesting to see what they have up their sleeve for it!
Perhaps the rumoured new 70-300 is the partner lens for the 24-105 STM (although there has been no update on that rumour for a while now). I figure the 24-105 STM will get a partner one of these days.
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unfocused said:
All kidding aside, I would not be in the least surprised to see a 70-200 mm "L" III.
This is a foundation lens for Canon and I'm sure they want it to remain the best 70-200 available.
Given the stellar performance of some of Canon's most recent lenses, there is always room for improvement, even if it is only marginal. With ever-higher megapixel sensors on the horizon, they will want to make sure the 70-200 stays ahead of the game.
I would expect to see the latest lens coating added as well as IS improvements that have been developed since its introduction. They might reduce the weight slightly and it would not surprise me to see additional weather sealing and a few other enhancements added.
From a business standpoint, updating one of your core lenses so you can generate new sales among owners of the II version makes a lot of sense.
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I had the 70-200 f/4 and really enjoyed it, but it just couldn't perform in low light so I parted with it. Great image quality though. A great affordable L lens.
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In the "old days"jd7 said:
there was the telezoom type 70 - 210mm/4-5.6 as available tele lens. Nowadays we have the 70-300mm/4-5.6 for this job. And quite good price performers from third parties here.
I see absolutely no reason for any lens manfacturer to make that step backwards. Sorry but that's a miss.
That might be something. But I don't know how well the actual DO generation performs in zooms.
The 70-300 DO (quite old) was nicely short but way too expensive for its optical performance.
So as I said in my first post I see only little reason to make an update to the existing lenses.
Edit: And I don't know if and how that BR element can be used in zooms, or if it's only working well in primes.
That fits 100% to what I said above. It's just a matter of time...
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An EF 70-200 STM, together with the 24-105 STM, makes sense IF (some of) the new Full Frame bodies feature the DPAF.
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