Canon's APS-C flagship may have a new name (not 7D Mark II)
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Yes! Look at Infiniti cars now - what a disaster from a company that's trying to build brands against companies that feature the 3 series, E Class, etc.AprilForever said:RLPhoto said:I like the name 7D. It's so cheerful and full of vigor. ::
I feel the same way. Names are deeply meaningful, and just changing them for stupid corporate reasons cheapens them.
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Could we see the 7D line become 8D or 9D instead? Maybe Canon want to push the APS-C models further down the chain?
Maybe if they made a 7D2 it might confuse some people as to which is "better" the 6D or 7D2. The numbers are a bit close and some already have the notion that the 7D is full frame.
But none of that makes sense because the 7D would still exist. They can't erase it completely!
We should start a petition to keep the 7D name alive!
Maybe if they made a 7D2 it might confuse some people as to which is "better" the 6D or 7D2. The numbers are a bit close and some already have the notion that the 7D is full frame.
But none of that makes sense because the 7D would still exist. They can't erase it completely!
We should start a petition to keep the 7D name alive!
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Slight off topic thinking out loud.
Names we'll prob never see from Canon -
2D - can you imagine a 2D2? Sounds too much like a star wars character.
3D - do we need special glasses or what? Also too close to nintendo 3DS.
4D - four also reads as death in Japanese.
8D - 2 x 4 = 8 still a multiple of four. Superstition may keep this name at bay! Also sounds like you're saying 80.
10D - we already had it. Could make a comeback though.
You can see why they chose 1, 5, 6 and 7 now. Maybe they're runnin out of numbers?
I really hope they don't use random made up words instead!
Names we'll prob never see from Canon -
2D - can you imagine a 2D2? Sounds too much like a star wars character.
3D - do we need special glasses or what? Also too close to nintendo 3DS.
4D - four also reads as death in Japanese.
8D - 2 x 4 = 8 still a multiple of four. Superstition may keep this name at bay! Also sounds like you're saying 80.
10D - we already had it. Could make a comeback though.
You can see why they chose 1, 5, 6 and 7 now. Maybe they're runnin out of numbers?
I really hope they don't use random made up words instead!
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A valid marketing reason to ship the premium APS-C offering with a new name is this. If the new camera is a feature-laden as we hope, it's going to need a higher pricepoint. To name a significantly higher priced release as the 7DII will elicit howls of protest. 
"Look how much they've raised the price of the 7D!!!"
But if it's skillfully repositioned as an all new model, the grounds for grumbling will be lessened. The 7D classic may even soldier on for another couple of years...who knows? It's still a very good camera which has aged remarkably well.
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"Look how much they've raised the price of the 7D!!!" But if it's skillfully repositioned as an all new model, the grounds for grumbling will be lessened. The 7D classic may even soldier on for another couple of years...who knows? It's still a very good camera which has aged remarkably well.
-pw
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HA HA
Skunk or stench. I guess it could be a hybrid of the kiss camera. All black with a white stripe.
scott.
Skunk or stench. I guess it could be a hybrid of the kiss camera. All black with a white stripe.
scott.
Don Haines said:RLPhoto said:I like the name 7D. It's so cheerful and full of vigor. :
I hear that it will be named the Mephitidae Mephitis and that the only new feature will be a mode dial that goes all the way around
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I live in China(same ideas about the meaning of 4 or "si") and this is not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. Nikon already has a D4 as their flagship. My building(and most others) have a 4th floor. My apartment is #4..... etc.Zv said:
"Si," depending on the tone it is said in also means "temple, silk, thought/think, tear/rip, personal, then/this, feed, similar and many, many others.
Yes, there is some truth to the idea, but I think the Nikon D4 proved that it is definitely not out of the realm of possibility for a camera to have a "4" in the name.
I think this is spot on. If Canon wants to make the end all be all of APS-C cameras(which I believe is what they should do) they will probably want to position it well over 2000 dollars. A new, higher level name will facilitate this better than a simple "II" designation.pwp said:A valid marketing reason to ship the premium APS-C offering with a new name is this. If the new camera is a feature-laden as we hope, it's going to need a higher pricepoint. To name a significantly higher priced release as the 7DII will elicit howls of protest.
But if it's skillfully repositioned as an all new model, the grounds for grumbling will be lessened. The 7D classic may even soldier on for another couple of years...who knows? It's still a very good camera which has aged remarkably well.
-pw
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Zv said:
Hi Zv and colleagues.
My first post on here I think! For some reason my last post and pics never uploaded even though I was within the MP upload size constraint!
In my experience, the Japanese are never random about anything! I worked for them for eighteen months and they are more likely to go quiet for months, then just pop up suddenly and spring something! Sounds typical canon to me.
Then they are probably likely to use some spiritual or historically significant (to them) type name!
So that would make for the following grades:
Warrior Class
1Dx = King
5D3 = Shogun
7D = Daimyo
xxD = Samurai
xxxD = Noble
M Class = Elite
I guess that makes the power shot etc the Peasant a,b,c or maybe something a bit cooler sounding!
Spiritual Class
1Dx = Ameterasu
5D3 = Onnotangu
7D = Qamar
xxD = Naga
xxxD = Kami
M Class = Qatol
I guess that makes the powershot etc the Jade, Bright Eyes, Pale Eyes or again, maybe something a bit cooler sounding!
Looking at these names... The KISS doesnt seem so bad! LOL
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If it's being renamed, it's probably going to be a 50D -> 60D scenario, unfortunately.
7D MarkII, on the name alone, will draw people in since it's a known quantity.
But if you look at the 50D -> 60D change . . . was there anything wrong with the 60D? No.
How many posts have there been about 'no metal body' and 'no mfa'? A billion.
What was wrong with the release? Expectations.
If the 60D had been named it a Kiss PRO or a 600D PRO, people would have complained about something else . . . the 7D could have been the 60D and (from the huge price difference) they could have sold both.
7D MarkII, on the name alone, will draw people in since it's a known quantity.
But if you look at the 50D -> 60D change . . . was there anything wrong with the 60D? No.
How many posts have there been about 'no metal body' and 'no mfa'? A billion.
What was wrong with the release? Expectations.
If the 60D had been named it a Kiss PRO or a 600D PRO, people would have complained about something else . . . the 7D could have been the 60D and (from the huge price difference) they could have sold both.
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except for the lack of AFMA, the 60D was a fine camera.... note that AFMA is back on the 70D... apparantly Canon listens...dstppy said:
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Don Haines said:
I agree, but I'm saying the perceived 'loss of features' came from the fact that they repositioned the camera, and I'm wondering if they've "learned from their mistake" and maybe that's why they're not calling it a 7D mk II.
Honestly, the only things I don't like about my 7D are:
1) no locking wheel
2) No dual-MFA entries (like the new ones)
If it had the kidsy settings the 60D, it'd make my life easier, as I could ditch my 60D that my wife gets as a loaner when she needs something good.
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