Caon eos 800d picss and specs

neuroanatomist said:
Tinky said:
RayValdez360 said:
These greedy bastards can't put c log in their new DSLRs. Canon is such an annoying brand. I am already thinking about ways they will cripple the c100 mkIII.

Were you really expecting XLR inputs and a grab handle on the new rebel?

I think he just forgot the <sarcasm> tags... ;)

My thoughts exactly. Sarcasm is hard to discern on the internet, but I sure assumed he was being sarcastic.
 
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unfocused said:
I am confused about where this sits in the lineup. If the 800D is in the Rebel lineup, and they are coming out with a new XXD (77?) body, I'll be very interested to see what is offers. It doesn't seem like there will be much room between the 800D and the 80D to slot in an additional model.
If there is a 77D, you can have only one LCD display on the top of the camera, and everything else the same as the T7i.
 
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unfocused said:
I am confused about where this sits in the lineup. If the 800D is in the Rebel lineup, and they are coming out with a new XXD (77?) body, I'll be very interested to see what is offers. It doesn't seem like there will be much room between the 800D and the 80D to slot in an additional model.

Lest we forget, there was a slightly better version of the T6i/750D called the T6s/760D that came out in parallel to it:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T6s.aspx

So the betting man would imagine a refresh of the T6s/760D would become the new 77D, while the T6i/750D refresh would be called the T7i/800D (the body discussed in this thread). So in my mind, the surprise is not that a camera is sitting between the T7i/800D and 80D -- it's that it is being called 77D, which seems nutty.

Top LCD and a rear control wheel would be the main differentiators between the two, but if you look at the link above there were other items that the T6s/760D got that the T6i/750D did not. The makeup of that list may not be the same this go round, but Canon will find a way to get another $100 from us.

One might have presumed that DPAF could have been withheld to the pricier model, but it looks like both will get it.

- A
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
If there is a 77D, you can have only one LCD display on the top of the camera, and everything else the same as the T7i.

There are differences between the T6i and T6s that go beyond the LCD screen though, stuff like 3x optical zoom during video in the form of crop. T6S has it, T6i does not. HDR video, T6s has it, T6i not. Proximity sensor, T6s has it, T6i does not. There are other differences, which I forgot.
 
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Nininini said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
If there is a 77D, you can have only one LCD display on the top of the camera, and everything else the same as the T7i.

There are differences between the T6i and T6s that go beyond the LCD screen though, stuff like 3x optical zoom during video in the form of crop. T6S has it, T6i does not. HDR video, T6s has it, T6i not. Proximity sensor, T6s has it, T6i does not. There are other differences, which I forgot.

Again, from TDP:

Summary of Canon EOS Rebel T6s and T6i Feature Differences

Top LCD Data Panel
Rear Control Dial
Multi-function Lock Switch
Single-Axis (Horizontal) Electronic In-Viewfinder Level
Servo AF in Live View for continuous tracking of moving subjects during burst mode shooting
Auto Display-Off Sensor
Mode Dial on Left Side
HDR Movie Capabilities
Digital Zoom in Movie Mode, featuring 3-10x w/o loss of quality
Higher Price

- A
 
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Maiaibing said:
A slightly off-topic thought: sounds like good news for what we can expect from a 6DII. :P

+1. If there was any doubt whatsoever that the 6D2 would get DPAF, that just flew out the window. If a $750 body gets it, the 6d2 is a lock to get it.

Also, 6 fps in a Rebel might mean something similar in the 6D2, at which point every 5D4 owner will cry bloody murder for the 7 fps that $3500 rig was saddled with.

- A
 
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I don't mind that these cameras won't have 4k video. Ok, Sony their APS-C have it, but in what form....large amounts of rolling shutter that makes video footage look like jello and a large chance the camera overheats and shuts down.

And then the processing of 4k video, which are still large files that take a very long time to process and store. I just don't really feel like hardware is ready for 4k. I processed a 4k video once and it took several hours on an Intel i5. That's not something I want to do for my vacation video.

I like the fact that these cameras have PDAF and got an extra FPS way more than I would have liked 4k with rolling shutter.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
Nininini said:
"5 axis image stabilization during video"

What is this please? It's not IBIS is it?
There are motion sensors in 5 different directions to correct the video framing by cropping the image.

Ah ok thanks. Hopefully that doesn't remove the 3x crop functionality during video where you could get 3x zoom, I love that on rebels.

I guess that would also make video viable on the 24mm and 40mm pancake, which are now quite shaky without IS.
 
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C-A430 said:
Chaitanya said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
In what way would this be a step back?
I presume the SD slot is still UHS-I not faster UHS-II and no 4k video for a camera that is supposed to compete with Sony A6000 series thats unacceptable.

Both price-wise and feature-wise A6500 is competing with 80D (and they are both overpriced), while A5000-series compete with Rebvel 1200/1300D (both are terrible cameras in every way).

Rebel 750D/760D/800D has no competition. Nikon D330 and D550 are similarly priced, but different products. Now that we are at it - its funny that 7DII and D500 are nearly IDENTICAL.

It might be a shock to some people, but an 1100D with a 400mm lens can track birds in flight.
3fps isn't a lot, but it's still enough to snap some nice photos.

Everything on top of that is gravy.
The 800D looks like a mini 80D, combining the Canon EOS ecosystem with those capabilities in a nice compact body is probably the best package for the price on the market.
 
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tron said:
one step forward, 2 steps backward my @....

800D vs. 750D steps forward I believe are the following:

1. Dual Pixel CMOS AF
2. Burst: Up to 6 frames per second
3. Video: Full HD, 5 axis electronic image stabilization
4. Built-in Wi-Fi / Bluetooth

And by the way no steps backward exist since nothing is worse than 750D...

While it isn't mentioned in the specs, I also assume video will now be 1080 @ 60FPS instead of 30FPS.

On my current Rebel I am always forced to shoot 720p for 60FPS. And since I like to slow a movie clip down a little bit (wildlife), I could never shoot in 1080p. (slowing down 30FPS video just looke like a slideshow). If these new rebels can shoot 1080p in 60FPS that would be lovely.

PDAF, 60FPS video, +1 FPS burst, video stabilisation. I'm liking it so far.
 
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9VIII said:
It might be a shock to some people, but an 1100D with a 400mm lens can track birds in flight.
3fps isn't a lot, but it's still enough to snap some nice photos.

Nonsense. If you don't have at least 10 fps and at least 50 AF points, you can't shoot anything that's moving. Not even a snail.
 
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Sharlin said:
Chaitanya said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
In what way would this be a step back?
I presume the SD slot is still UHS-I not faster UHS-II and no 4k video for a camera that is supposed to compete with Sony A6000 series thats unacceptable.

You have a very interesting definition of "step back". Hint: a step back would be a reduction in functionality, not just staying at the same spot.

There are two ways to affect a step back. The 2nd way is when you stay where you are, and everyone else steps forward. I don't think that happened here, if A-D converter on sensor and DPAF, its a big step forward.
 
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