CES 2014. Nikon D4s is a fact. What can be expected from Canon?

[pedro]

Hi, there was some movement on the "dark side", so what's next for us "Canonites"?

http://nikonrumors.com/2014/01/06/nikon-announces-the-development-of-the-nikon-d4s-camera.aspx/#more-69908

 

[Eldar]

VERY interesting. Something has to happen in the Canon camp!

 

[BL]

So no mention of release date. What good is this information other than to stifle sales of the D4?

 

[RGomezPhotos]

Looks like a sweet camera.

 

[Northstar]

So no mention of release date. What good is this information other than to stifle sales of the D4?

Good point.

Canon's response could be.

Next gen revolutionary canon 1DX ii with improved AF, better IQ, and faster FPS....coming sometime in the future!

:

 

[BL]

hahaha

true that

 

[rs]

Looks like a sweet camera.

The previous Nikon S versions have been very minor increments. Expect nothing more than a bigger buffer and faster processing to go with it. As far as I know there's never been a new sensor or an increase in frame rate introduced with an S version.

By all accounts this won't bring Nikons flagship up to 1D X levels of performance.

 

[Lawliet]

VERY interesting. Something has to happen in the Canon camp!

That depends on what the D4s can do - if it just narrows the gap the pressure is more on emotional side. Even a slight edge wouldn't have much impact. And seriously surpassing the 1Dx would warrent a promotion to D5. not just the incremental s. As for video: 1080p@60 would be expected, but the 1Dc can do that too - it would require 4K with RGB readout and at a decent framerate to get folks seriously interested.
I'd say the D800 is a stronger "something has to happen"-factor

 

[ewg963]

So no mention of release date. What good is this information other than to stifle sales of the D4?

+1

 

[ewg963]

Hmmmmm I wonder if this body will be of a higher MP form than the D4? Canon who knows?

 

[ewg963]

Looks like a sweet camera.

The previous Nikon S versions have been very minor increments. Expect nothing more than a bigger buffer and faster processing to go with it. As far as I know there's never been a new sensor or an increase in frame rate introduced with an S version.

By all accounts this won't bring Nikons flagship up to 1D X levels of performance.

And if it does or bests Canon, what then?

+10000000!!!! That's a great question Dilbert......hmmmmmm!!!

 

[Eldar]

So no mention of release date. What good is this information other than to stifle sales of the D4?

+1

I would expect them to give a lot more detail at the actual announcement, in a few days time

 

[xps]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/07/nikon-announces-development-of-d4s-professional-hd-slr?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_2

Btw: Canon still has no competitor to the D800E. The 1D line is twice the price of the D800. Maybe Canon will be able meet our wishes in 2014 (high MP Cam @ moederate costs, 7DII,...)

The Nikon D3300 is another competitor. What will Canon do?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/07/new-nikon-d3300-gains-new-sensor-processor-and-kit-lens?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1

 

[AvTvM]

So no mention of release date. What good is this information other than to stifle sales of the D4?

It's a lot of information. "No new sensor", is the first thing I read in the announcement. Nothing about "high res".
So it will be the same old 16MP D4 sensor , probably in the "improved" Df version. No increase in fps. Slightly tweaked AF algortihms (no new AF module). Slightly improved new "X peed" chip. Somewhat better video. Maybe, just maybe WiFi built in. Yawn.

Instead of a kick-butt D4x based on the 36MP D800/E sensor plus revolutionary new dual-pixel AF. ;D
WiFi, NFC, GPS and radio wireless flash commander built-in. Along with 2 matching radio-controlled CLS/iTTL speedlites and transceivers for existing older speedlites, instead of continued stone-age optical triggering. ;D

 

[xps]

So no mention of release date. What good is this information other than to stifle sales of the D4?

It's a lot of information. "No new sensor", is the first thing I read in the announcement. Nothing about "high res".
So it will be the same old 16MP D4 sensor , probably in the "improved" Df version. No increase in fps. Slightly tweaked AF algortihms (no new AF module). Slightly improved new "X peed" chip. Somewhat better video. Maybe, just maybe WiFi built in. Yawn.


Instead of a kick-butt D4x based on the 36MP D800/E sensor plus revolutionary new dual-pixel AF. ;D
WiFi, NFC, GPS and radio wireless flash commander built-in. Along with 2 matching radio-controlled CLS/iTTL speedlites and transceivers for existing older speedlites, instead of continued stone-age optical triggering. ;D

found @ dpreview: "Nikon has announced it is working on the D4S which, like the D4, it describes as an 'HD-SLR.' Details are extremely slight, with the company promising a new image-processing engine and improved autofocus performance."

 

[eml58]

Considering the previous iterations were D3s (12MP) & D3x (24MP), it's hard to see Nikon doing anything more with a D4s over the D4 than some minor tweaks, I find myself agreeing in this instance with AvTvM, a bit of a yawn, something like the D600 versus the D610 iteration.

Would really liked to have seen Nikon drop a 36MP D4x into the Market, if for no other reason than it might (big might) have given Canon some extra incentive to get that 1Dxs into the 2014 Market @ 45MP, we live in hope.

 

[unfocused]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/07/nikon-announces-development-of-d4s-professional-hd-slr?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_2

Btw: Canon still has no competitor to the D800E. The 1D line is twice the price of the D800. Maybe Canon will be able meet our wishes in 2014 (high MP Cam @ moederate costs, 7DII,...)

Corrected Posting:

BTW: Nikon still has no competitor to the 5DIII. The D4 line is twice the price of the 5DIII. Maybe Nikon will be able to meet its customers wishes in 2014 (high ISO, Low-Noise Camera at fair price, D400...)

The point is, just because Nikon offers slightly different specs, it doesn't make it better. I much prefer what Canon did with the 5DIII to what Nikon did with the D800 and judging by the comparative sales figures, it seems like the market agrees.

As for this new Nikon, I'm trying to figure out what's so different. Meet the new Nikon, same as the old Nikon? And, if high megapixels are so wonderful, why doesn't Nikon put a high megapixel sensor in its flagship?

 

[MichaelHodges]

Looks like a sweet camera.

The previous Nikon S versions have been very minor increments. Expect nothing more than a bigger buffer and faster processing to go with it. As far as I know there's never been a new sensor or an increase in frame rate introduced with an S version.

By all accounts this won't bring Nikons flagship up to 1D X levels of performance.

And if it does or bests Canon, what then?

Does? All of the Nikon FF cameras best Canon *now*.

 

[xps]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/01/07/nikon-announces-development-of-d4s-professional-hd-slr?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_2

Btw: Canon still has no competitor to the D800E. The 1D line is twice the price of the D800. Maybe Canon will be able meet our wishes in 2014 (high MP Cam @ moederate costs, 7DII,...)

Corrected Posting:

BTW: Nikon still has no competitor to the 5DIII. The D4 line is twice the price of the 5DIII. Maybe Nikon will be able to meet its customers wishes in 2014 (high ISO, Low-Noise Camera at fair price, D400...)

The point is, just because Nikon offers slightly different specs, it doesn't make it better. I much prefer what Canon did with the 5DIII to what Nikon did with the D800 and judging by the comparative sales figures, it seems like the market agrees.

As for this new Nikon, I'm trying to figure out what's so different. Meet the new Nikon, same as the old Nikon? And, if high megapixels are so wonderful, why doesn't Nikon put a high megapixel sensor in its flagship?

Sorry, I meant that Canon has no big MP Camera and some friends of mine, working for an big Canon supplying company, told me, that Canon will release an big MP Cam - but in the price-region of the 1DX.
Some Nikonians say, that Nikon is developing an gamechanging high-end model... Maybe this is true. Maybe not. We will know in some years.

Fact is, that every company found its niche, where an special Camera-model is better then the competitors.

 

[Loswr]

And if it does or bests Canon, what then?

Does? All of the Nikon FF cameras best Canon *now*.

You're welcome to your own opinion, but that opinion obviously differs from that of the majority of people actually buying Canon and Nikon FF cameras.